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[–] projectd 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Private jets are bad, agreed... How about making the change to veganism and also campaigning about private jets at the same time? Picking a different item on a menu is all it takes for a people in a lot of places and it's t really the type of problem that humanity should be throwing everything at.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Speaking as someone who is plant based, it's a false dichotomy anyway. It's not "go vegan or eat lots of meat". People who don't share the vegan philosophy could just eat very little meat and make a huge difference to the planet, just like how I bike or walk to work but once in a while I drive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't understand why everything has to be some lifestyle piece now. It's so all or nothing instead of taking the battles you can win when you can win them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's mostly an internet thing, especially a Reddit thing. I don't think it's as much a widespread culture as all that if you talk to folks who aren't terminally online.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you're talking about veganism exclusively and I'm more talking everything.

You can't just be someone who likes something or thinks something, it now has to be your lifestyle or part of you. You're not just a person who like riding bikes, your a cyclist and you have to strive to wear spandex and all that. I think it's pretty common when talking about phones where people will make the computer they keep in their pocket a statement about themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm talking about everything. Tons of people still ride bikes for transport and don't identify as cyclists, or don't really care whether their phone is an android or iPhone. A large majority of people don't identify with little details of their lives like that, but when you go online into a specific topic there's a much higher chance of running into people who feel really strongly about it, because they're drawn to the topic and are participating in a subset of people who already tend to be really passionate about nerdy shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

See I have those experiences while not online. Maybe it's a cultural thing but I feel like online people are often less about the lifestyle.

I can't remember the last time I saw someone make an Apple product their lifestyle online but I know of a handful in person.

[–] JigglySackles 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm all for doing all of it. I am just making a statement that I am tired of it all being put on those of us with the least overall impact for the extensive amount of cooperative effort it takes.

[–] projectd 3 points 2 years ago

I hear you! It's frustrating how much is out of our control. I find some people neglect to do what they can because some people, corporations or countries are a larger problem - sorry for mistakenly lumping you in with them!