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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the type of meat changes the math significantly. Beef is notoriously inefficient and produces an insane amount of GHG emissions compared to more efficient meats like chicken, pork, and farmed fish.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And soy is still better than all of them.

[–] Coreidan 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] baronvonj -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And it's not uncommon for breast cancer survivors to be told to avoid soy to reduce the risk of recurrence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's unfortunate if true, since there's no evidence isoflavones have any significant cross reactivity in humans.

However I'm a doctor and haven't ever seen this advice, so I'm skeptical it's "not uncommon".

[–] baronvonj 1 points 1 year ago

Admittedly anecdotal, but every woman I personally know as a breast cancer survivor has been told this. Some went to MD Anderson even. I do share research articles with them to show them otherwise. Some are receptive, some are not.

[–] kicksystem 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because the spreading of myths are not uncommon.

[–] baronvonj 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, but some people will ignore articles if it is counter to what their doctor told them. Some will if ore their doctor if they have an article to back their preferred answer. Some will discuss the article with their doctor, or find a doctor who agrees with the article.

[–] kicksystem 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. Doctors aren't infallible. That's why you ideally want people to understand how science works, the hierarchy of evidence and able to deep dive into papers when need be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not significantly enough to make the general statement untrue for 99% of meat eaters. Just for reference, "high meat diet" starts at 100g of meat a day. And farmed fish is fed wild caught fish and a fuckton of antibiotica.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That can't be true if the GHG multiple between meat and vegan is 4x and the multiple between beef and chicken is already more than 4x...