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[–] FartSmarter 318 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well stop doing your part. Stop interacting with Reddit. They are almost certainly doing Place right now just to boost their numbers and you’re falling for it

[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, but in exchange for a brief flurry of engagement they have to put up with another wave of articles about angry reddit user protests:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/20/redditors-are-already-using-r-place-to-address-api-controversy/

[–] FartSmarter 115 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“Oh no, anyways…”

Says the Reddit execs as they show off their numbers to VCs as they prepare for their IPO

[–] NevermindNoMind 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Investors care about the potential for future growth and thus future increased profits. They don't give a shit about what a company is doing today, except to the extent it is predictive of the future. Investors look at this and see lots of activity of users who actively hate the company, that's not future growth.

To take an unfortunate example, imagine if Bud Light had a bump in sales because a bunch of right wing lunatics were buying extra just so they could make videos of them throwing away, shooting, blowing up, or otherwise destroying the beer while vowing never to drink it again. Does an investor look at that bump in sales and say "oh neat, look how well Bud Light is doing, I should invest!" or do they say "A lot of Bud Light's core consumer base is pissed as hell and probably not going to be buying this product in the future, there is limited potential for future growth, I'm out"?

[–] graphite 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't give a shit about what a company is doing today, except to the extent it is predictive of the future. Investors look at this and see lots of activity of users who actively hate the company, that's not future growth

Yes. And if you look at Reddit today, it's still alive and full of buzz.

The third-party app userbase was a small percentage of the site.

Most people are indifferent and so they keep using it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it is legit nothing but bots and reposts. there's more oc here on Lemmy in my experience

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There are magnitudes more OC on Reddit than Lemmy just by nature of their user base size. There are bots and reposts, sure, but Lemmy pales in comparison to the amount of OC on Reddit

[–] graphite 2 points 1 year ago

There's actually plenty of user activity there.

Enough to make the outrage negligble.

[–] FartSmarter 15 points 1 year ago

You say investors see lots of active users who actively hate the site and don’t see future growth.

I think they see a lot of users who say they hate the site but despite that they still use the site and the numbers continue to grow. To me that sounds like a dependent user base that even through hard times continues to grow.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

People hate CEOs but can be so dumb...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think those VC vultures are looking at those numbers in a vacuum? I highly doubt it.

[–] FartSmarter 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think VCs are idiots… so yes.

[–] graphite 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They don't care. You're not even bed bugs to these people. You're just the siren that's heard 20 blocks away downtown at 10 pm.

No biggie. Par of the course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The black hole? Do your homework, it's the void.

Btw. Why just "fuckspez" the Lemmy mascot would be better.

[–] dtxer 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, they ban moderators in the full knowledge in reducing the quality and well behavedness of users and to increase traffic by upset people. This is exactly what they want: upset people = engagement. This how Twitter works or maybe used to work, I didn't follow the recent changes too closely.

[–] Alteon 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree. I'm one of the April Knights that team up every April Fool's for the events. They are 4000% doing this to boost numbers. Fuck them entirely. I refuse to participate.

That being said, we need to have our own April Fools event. I wonder if anyone would be interested in this? If there is enough of it, I'll see if I can take on a new coding project.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what you’re talking about but that sounds like a great idea

[–] player2 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

R/place will increase their traffic no matter what. At least the picture can convey the protest message so they know we aren't going to move past it that easily. Plus, keeping r/place open all day is increasing their server costs while providing no ad revenue. I don't go to reddit other than to spread to good word of Lemmy and to downvote admins so I think that has more benefit to us than to them.

[–] graphite 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least the picture can convey the protest message so they know we aren't going to move past it that easily.

As if that means anything to them?

You're a minority.

don't go to reddit other than to spread to good word of Lemmy and to downvote admins so I think that has more benefit to us than to them.

Reddit admins ABSOLUTELY RUINED by frequent EXPLETIVES and DOWNVOTES

[–] player2 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think we are a minority at all. Look at any admin communication and all you see are complaints related to the changes. Also I think the protests actually are hurting moral at Reddit, and could potentially affect their IPO, but I'm mostly just enjoying a bit of schadenfreude from watching how poorly things can go for them. I know it won't affect their decisions in the end. https://lemmy.world/post/1796444

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think their individual contribution there doesn't matter, why do you think their individual contribution leaving the site matters.

We're always a minority.

[–] graphite 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it matters.

I left the site, disappointed, because Reddit was great. I'm a transplant.

I understand why everyone is angry. It's a natural response, but after 2 months of this you'd think we'd have realized that there isn't much that can be done.

Reddit is going to aim to profit. There isn't much to it beyond that.

[–] lemmington_steele 11 points 1 year ago

or write 'join lemmy' so you take away the numbers in the long run

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it would be beneficial if we get Lemmy exposure on there. Sure their numbers might go up but some people will leave knowing how shit the platform is.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess a better marketing ploy would have been

Lemmy Sez
Fuck Spez

A good rhyme and well-justified text can do a lot of hard work.

[–] graphite 6 points 1 year ago

Lemmy Sez

Speak for yourself

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did stop interacting with Reddit, I only put one pixel in because there are still a lot of people there that haven't given up yet and this is their way of protesting.
Even if it's not the way I choose for myself, I still respect them for holding the ground.
This is my homage for those people.

[–] Klear 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're addicted and use this crap to rationalise it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One doesn’t need to be a scientist to see that you are incapable of leaving Reddit. Look at all your justifications for staying.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kid I've been on Lemmy way longer than you because I started searching for alternatives way before the whole thing blew up.
You silly guys that joined 1 month ago with your last minute righteousness can all line up and suck my balls , but before please take all those bull shit out of your mouth that's not really hygienic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao oh this is a Lemmy seniority test now?? It’s a website haha. Mazel tov on you being here longer. You truly are worth praise for that. But if that makes you feel better and happy then I want you to have it :) who am I to take away your self worth?