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Once is a fluke, twice is a concern, three is a trend.
Haven't there been 4?
I just looked it up and yeah, there have been 4 in just a few weeks: https://www.fox4news.com/news/deadly-plane-crashes-2025-timeline
I would separate the ones involving major airline, and the one involving private jets/smaller planes. Alaska has the reputation to be a place where people fly without a licence (Or lost their licence due to drunk-flying but kept flying) and winter ops there sounds like a bit more extreme than regular air-lines.
But indeed, planes aren't supposed to do barrel roll on the runaway. not sure what happened, I expect to see some interesting "air-crash investigation " video in the coming years (Yes I am too lazy to read the report by myself)
I tried to barrel roll a commercial plane in a flight sim once...I concluded I don't think they're supposed to do it in the air either. 😂
This one was in Canada
Yeah I know, but it originated from Minneapolis and landed in Toronto Pearson Airport, which is very close to the US border (it's literally across the lake from New York). Different country, but really not that different since the airplane is also from a US airline with a US pilot.
Anyway, it's just uncanny how many planes have been crashing lately in a relatively short span of time.
I think the bigger point is that commercial aviation (this case) is VERY different, safety-wise, to the other cases mentiined. Commercial has a ridiculously good safety record. The others have always had a relatively high accident rate, more similar to motorcycles.
I didn't mean to imply otherwise, so I apologize if that was the interpretation. There are tens of thousands of commercial flights every day around the world (a quick search suggests around 100,000+ per day), so a couple of crashes is a fraction of a drop in the ocean.
I think the news highlighting the other non-commercial airline crashes lately is due to the US charter flight/helicopter crash, so it's got higher attention traction. I also wouldn't doubt it's somewhat politically motivated, as the charter plane crash was attributed to underfunded, understaffed Air Traffic Control, while President Edolph Musk and First Lady Trump continue gutting agencies like the FAA.
Acknowledged but unfortunately I don't think I'm allowed to blame Trump gutting US ATC for this one.
Still appalling and more disgusting every day.
Was it by any chance a Boeing?
The weather was terrible, probably climate change.
Anyway, good work by the response team getting the fire out and people rescued. I guess the cold probably helped with the fire as well, so we'll cut Mother Nature a little slack.
I wonder if the reporting is like the train crash business. Happens more than we think but the media locks onto certain disasters.
I think even a plane crash where no one was hurt is more headline-worthy than a train crash with no one hurt. Fear sells, and many people have a fear of flying.
What happens a lot more frequently is landing gear failures or engine problems that still have a smooth landing. They do pull out all the stops though and will have emergency response on standby the moment they aren't sure the landing gear deployed properly.
Delta is an American airline.