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Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned that Trump’s mass deportation policy could lead to labor shortages and higher grocery prices.

Experts say agriculture, construction, and healthcare will be hardest hit, with farm output losses estimated between $30 and $60 billion.

Deportations could cost the U.S. economy up to $88 billion annually.

AOC argued that immigrant labor is vital to economic stability, urging Congress to pursue immigration reform.

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[–] WagyuSneakers 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're not going to pay a decent wage to pick food. They're going to enslave you and force you to pick the food for the same wages as before, if not less.

You keep expecting them to suddenly start playing by the rules. You don't matter anymore to them. They've written off the need to win your vote.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are mixing up your 'they's. There are multiple theys each with their own motivations. Frequently their interests align. Not always.

I don't expect anybody with money and power to play by THE rules, but everybody plays by SOME rules. Understand the rules each player is playing by, and you understand the game a lot better.

I don't for a second think Trump's motivation behind deporting people is pure as the driven snow. I'm sure for many people behind that policy, perhaps including Trump himself, there is a lot of thinly veiled racism or not so thinly veiled racism and a bunch of xenophobia too.

That doesn't mean it's impossible that it will work, and bring about some sort of positive result.

For me, the big problem with illegal immigration is it creates an easily exploitable underclass. A group of people who will work themselves to the fucking bone for peanuts, who can be exploited at will because they can't call the government to enforce labor regs. That creates a situation for employers that they can hire these people by the thousands, treat them like dirt, pay them barely anything, have them work in horrible conditions, and then basically toss them on the street. That situation is bad for everybody. It's certainly bad for Americans because if those exploitable people are available as labor why wouldn't an employer hire them rather than an American who will demand higher wages and better working conditions?

Ending that system of exploitation will suck, it will be a painful process that will destabilize food and labor markets. And knowing Trump, I'm quite sure there will be a lot of civil rights abuses, which I am strongly against. Everybody deserves to be treated with humanity and respect, including undocumented people who are being deported. But I also think that before we dive 100% into saying the whole thing is a bad idea, we should consider potential long-term effects. And if the result over the entire American labor market is there is no longer a cheap exploitable under-class, I think that's a good thing for everybody.

[–] WagyuSneakers 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's clear you only have a surface level understanding of the issue so you should either read up or be quiet on the topic. Your ignorance isn't of any value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Well there's a lot of information and different positions, most of which doesn't fit into a single post. Can you explain what specifically you think I've missed?