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Linus Torvalds to Hector Martin: 'Maybe the problem is you' (www.theregister.com)

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Here's the relevant kernel mailing list thread. There's a lot of stuff going on before, mind you, but this part onwards is important.

If you didn't read all of this (I don't blame you), here's how I am reading it:

[Hector Martin] Rust devs, just submit the patch. Either Torvalds likes it or not. I assume that people against us are saboteurs. I know the future!
[Simona Vetter] You can't eat your cake and have it too; either call it quits or try to change things from the inside, not both. Also stop creating drama, it affects me, and I've seen you creating drama for years, just so social media platforms can have their popcorn.
[Dave Arlie] Sima (Vetter) is right, stop creating drama. You are not helping [us? them?] this way.
[Martin] I feel tired and this justifies my behaviour. I also got deeply offended with the word "cancer" being used to refer to the Rust4Linux project. The process is broken. If my brigading doesn't work then say what else would.
[Linus Torvalds] The process works dammit. Your brigading makes me not want to touch this shit. Patches matter, discussions matter, brigading doesn't, you're the problem here.

Martin's toot (mentioned by Vetter was deleted, but still readable from an archive link.

Personally I think that Vetter, Arlie, Torvalds are being spot on. It's relevant to note that, based on the mailing list plus this blog entry, Arlie is at the very least sympathetic towards the Rust4Linux project, if not part of it.

[–] lefixxx 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What is Martin doing that makes it "brigading" instead of calling the community to express their opinion?

[–] chonglibloodsport 8 points 2 hours ago

It’s brigading to go on social media platforms and complain about the people you work with in order to exert outside pressure on them. You’re bypassing the formal processes of discussion and consensus-building and trying to leverage informal power you have. This tends to make people very angry and reluctant to work with you no matter what.

Linux is an open source project, not a democracy. If you want to contribute you have to follow their rules.

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