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Probably more to do with the mass delusion and post truth world we live in.
And yes, enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests because less evil wasn’t good enough.
Democrats enabled the greater evil by ignoring the interests of the constituencies they needed to win. It doesn't matter if the lesser evil is objectively the right choice - they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves.
This is nobody's fault but the democrats.
Individuals are reponsible for their actions. They didn't need to support the dems just have a spine and vote against Trump.
Because they didn't cut ties with Israel? There's no reality in which America is going to break up with their most important ally in the Middle East. Did you want Democrats to lie that they'd break ties so they could win and then go back on that promise? Flip flopping like that is what leads a country to having exactly zero allies.
I guess they had faith in Americans to be informed enough to know that despite not being perfect, they're INFINITELY better than Republicans. But that faith was 100% misplaced because Americans, my friend, are DUMB.
Because - far from 'cutting ties' with Israel - they actively shielded them from international accountability and continued supplying them with the bombs they were (and are still) dropping on Palestinian children
That is literally the fucking opposite of how voting works. You only got two choices for a winner here Biden or trump and not voting Biden = trump.
You guys seem to think there's a 3rd option here.
First past the post voting literally shows otherwise. You are a fool.
They did enable the greater evil, but it was voters who ultimately put them in office, not Democrats. The buck stops with the voters. Or it did - they made sure it won't any more.
Guess I'll just repeat myself:
"they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves"
If you want to play games with abstracting agency away from the people who had control of the entire situation, go nuts. But not only did the democrats have every opportunity to make the case for themselves, but they also dug the grave they're now laying in by building their platform around AIPAC money (and large corporate donors) to begin with.
The democrats simply cannot win with the political machine they've constructed anymore.
Now that's a statement I can agree with. In America political parties have to lie through their teeth and foment fear to win elections. Because Americans are easily manipulated.
Because they showed up to this campaign with receipts of their accomplishments and focused on talking policy and avoiding blatant propaganda and it clearly didn't work. Meanwhile, a guy who openly admitted he didn't have plans and told everyone immigrants were eating people's pets got to become the most powerful figure on the planet.
Americans are dumb. They must be lied to. Democrats should start doing that. Hell, they should have just lied that they'd break ties with Israel so they could win.
Lmao, is that what they did?
If you're gonna emulate what the republicans are doing, why not say 'fuck the parliamentarian' and just plow through actual, substantial reforms? Why pick the deception part and not the complete disregard for the rules in service of achieving your agenda part?
Congratulations on helping trump win. You're partially responsible when Gaza goes bye bye. Not the Dems.
If all it took for trump to win was a handful of internet weirdos to loudly oppose an active genocide then maybe the democrats were never going to win in the first place.
Congratulations on helping Trump win even more by defending the Democrat's incompetence and distracting the fight away from the actual fascist in the White House. Go ahead and continue attacking the left and the Muslim base. I'm sure that'll help slow down Trump's attack on your democracy.
You realize the person you're responding to LITERALLY believes the same about you, right?
That's their entire point.
Throwing a not-that-pithy "This is all your fault" won't even phase them. Would it phase you if they did it to you?
Surely you see the difference between Democratic leadership and the masses that believe in some semblance of humanity. I swear your short-sighted goal of overthrowing the system has resulted in millions of Americans marching goose step and lining trans children up for the slaughter.
Own your part now or history will not look kindly upon you and your ilk. You are right, but also very wrong.
Those kids had already been placed in that line by the system you're defending - half the states in the union had already been targeting them while democrats were at the helm, and now the democrats have the audacity to be blaming their loss on being too trans-friendly.
It is okay to be wrong, I know you are riding on a high right now. It is in a lot of ways bullshit though and you are also responsible for what has happened.
That's a healthy attitude, good job
Maybe some day you will be able to share it. Until then your just another person pointing fingers.