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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, the election was three months ago, and we have bigger fish to fry right now. My default assumption now is that anyone still trying to relitigate the Gaza voters is a Russian troll trying to sew division among the left.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

~~Haha no hate I just think it's funny you arrive at the same "Russian troll" conclusion as the people trying to relitigate the Gaza voters :P~~

e: i think i misunderstood your comment, retracted

[–] SoftestSapphic 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

This push to demonize the strawman protest voters is an ongoing propaganda campaign to cause poor people to infight.

This is a real propaganda campaign

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

you replied to me twice. i absolutely agree with your first sentence and i believe that the second sentence is applicable to other people—it’s possible you here just misunderstood my position due to my own inclarity

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Only speculation, but I believe you are right. This only started 2 days ago after Trump’s Gaza comments. It’s disheartening how easily it is to sway online discourse. Jokes on them, this only motivates me.

[–] SoftestSapphic 0 points 24 minutes ago

It's also possible to run thousands of parallel chatbots to atroturf sentiment these days.

They will even scour the internet automatically to insert themselves into any slightly relevant conversation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Like anything, it's probably a mix. There were plenty of actual Americans on the pro-Gaza side, and there were probably some Russian trolls as well. Now, there are some actual Americans trying to vent about the election. But it would also be naive to think a fair number of them aren't Russian trolls. It's not like the utility of manipulating an adversary nation's political discourse ends after an election.

Since there's no practical benefit to relitigating this old fight, however, it makes sense to just dismiss anyone bringing it up as a Russian bot. There's nothing to be gained by reopening this old wound among the left, but there is plenty to lose.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Genuine question… see my third to most recent post. It’s rhetorically identical to content I posted before, during and after the election. Based on what you see there, do you think I am a paid or otherwise illegitimate troll?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, people say the same thing about pro-Palestine posters. Logically, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

i don’t know what that means but thanks everyone for the downvotes i guess