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[–] givesomefucks 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Workers who’ve been at the agency less than one year received an email last week notifying them that they had been identified as employees that were likely on a “probationary/ trial period,” according to an email reviewed by NBC News.

Yeah...

Every fed has one year probation, and it is not a secret that you're not protected until that's year up and can be let go for basically any reason. But there still has to be a reason.

Article is light on details, but it was probably the agency trying to give a heads up, or musk trying to make the fork sound more attractive.

But the risk to new hires has been a discussion since Trump won the election among federal workers, they're the most vulnerable group, and every federal worker knows that already.

Quick edit:

The irony is I'm pretty sure Trump was the one that took it down from 2 years to one...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (11 children)

But there still has to be a reason.

Canadian here. Under US employment law, can't the reason be as arbitrary as "I don't like the colour of your shirt" (i.e., you can be fired without cause for any reason)? Barring a union contract that says otherwise and explicitly mentions probationary workers, it seems like they can make up any reason they want; that's probably the easiest part.

[–] AA5B 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many states are “at-will”, meaning either side caN end the relationship at will. People in these states have few protections. However there are court rulings that if a company defines a process they must follow it, and of course both sides generally have to follow contracts, including union contracts ts for the few unionized workers we have left.

However these are federal employees and appear to be union, so they’re better protected than most. It’s going to come down to how “probationary” is defined, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s in a lawsuit after the fact.

The common expectation of “probationary” is that there be a reason, you’re unsatisfactory somehow. I wouldn’t have thought you could use that for mass layoffs, but it looks like we’re going to find out

[–] MooDib 3 points 2 days ago

They are still federal workers and federal worker protections would still apply.

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