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Can anyone familiar with veganism answer me a curiosity?
Would someone who's vegan be fine with owning their own chickens and using them for eggs? If you're not engaging in the marketplace for them, you can absolve yourself of the suffering egg laying hens in factory farms could be experiencing, but I'm not sure how the 'suffer free because I raised them' plays into the belief/practice.
Veganism is a philosophy about animal exploitation. Vegans don't even eat honey because it is an animal product. If you eat eggs from a back yard chicken, you are still participating in the exploitation of that animal and feeding systems which further exploit animals. Some detailed further reading:
https://theminimalistvegan.com/backyard-eggs/
So no, a vegan would not do this. Though, what OP said about nomenclature remains true - some people are loose with the terms
e: a word
Would it be exploitation to give food, shelter, love, companionship etc in exchange for the eggs?
I personally think free-range farming in a non-harmful way is great, but you should still consider that the chicken is incapable of consenting. Your relationship with any confined animal is inherently a slave/master one, and I understand why some people object to that. We're keeping the animal comfortable and extending their lifespan, but we're also robbing them of agency, and I feel like that's something worth thinking about.
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Veganism isn't a religion, it's a label people use to self identity as not eating anything from animals.
Every person decides for themselves what counts. I'm sure there are people who identify as vegan that are ok with backyard chicken eggs, and there are ones that don't.
There is a whole industry around providing the chickens that people purchase for their backyards, and that industry has to sort the male chickens from the female, and then destroy the males. You can't really participate in purchasing chickens without being involved in that aspect, which most vegans would object to, even if the chickens that live with them would be treated humanely.
There's also some vegans who are fine with honey, and some that aren't.
I agree with what the others said, but I just want to point out that this 'model' vegan isn't nearly as important as you might think. You don't get a prize or hivemind access or whatever for conforming to some exact criteria. It's ultimately just a convenient label to summarize that you've made certain moral choices. Well, and to easily identify products that work well with your choices. But making those choices is very much each person's own adventure.
Other than the vegan powers of course
the laser eyes are particularly cool, it sucks that they only work when you're alone, though.
Of course.
And they're not without downsides. Since becoming all-knowing, I do sometimes forget that not everybody knows about vegan powers.
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The ability to take fast, clean-wiping, effortless shits every single time is my favorite vegan superpower.
This has been discussed thousands of times online so I don't feel the need to type out a very long answer.
The pure existence of modern day chickens is animal abuse. The closest known relative to the modern day chicken lays about 10-15 or so eggs a year. Modern day chickens lay eggs daily. It is extremely hard on their body, they have been selectively bred to provide output with no care for their wellbeing.
That being said, if a vegan were to rescue a chicken or something, and it produces eggs, the best you can do is usually feed them back to it. I know that sounds weird but if you feed the chicken back its own eggs, it helps recuperate lost nutrients, and they love it.
You would need to buy the chicken from somewhere. You would only buy the female chicken, because you want the eggs. There would still be male chickens that no one wants, except for reproduction. That would at least be my logic so I'd say no.
It really depends on the type of "vegan". Some people are in it for the dietary benefits and others are in it for the animal welfare. Dietary is actually "plant based" but most people just say vegan, even it it doesn't quite fit.
The ones in it for climate/dietary benefits are plant-based, not vegan, as they wouldn't have an issue with e.g. leather (at least the dietary ones)
True but when you go to a restaurant or store it is easier to just say vegan. No need to confuse people.
There's also the environmental ones.
And the squeamish