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150,000 Koreans in U.S. subject to Trump's deportation order: Report
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I do wonder if there will be any bottom up resistance to the Trump regime. Things like regional refusals to implement at least some of the orders, occupation of federal buildings, detainment of regime thugs, blockade of key infrastructure nodes (airports, major highway nodes, ports etc.), detainment of senior oligarchs and collaborators.
I recognize that in the US context even talking about such things is both controversial and would be seen as a sort of a fever dream, but in the global context this is not unprecedented.
From living in the US, I don't think there will be any bottom up resistance (at least initially). US is simply too well off (on a relative basis) for most people to care, there is a strong belief in US institutions (for better or worse) and many people are brainwashed by oligarch propaganda.
That being said, these sort of things are by definition unpredictable.
There will be, but you have to understand that a lot of it will be things that you won't learn happened until years later.
Sometimes that will be because the captive media refuses to report on it. A lot of the time it will be because in order for it to happen, no one can talk about it.
Here's an example I learned about recently. Back under Bush, the Patriot act made it legal for the government to grab your reading history from any library, without a subpoena. Libraries were required to appoint a Patriot Act compliance officer to handle these requests.
Must libraries did two things in response to this. The first was to stop tracking reading histories. The other was to appoint their compliance officers as demanded... And to make sure that those appointments went to the employee who most recently left.
"Oh, I'm sorry officer, we don't have any way to access that information. No, Jeremy had all the passwords and he quit recently. I've emailed him but he still hasn't gotten back to me. I'll let you know as soon as we can get that information, absolutely."
The thing is, for this to work, no one could talk about it. Library employees discussed it with each other, they shared the idea between libraries, using back channels, but no one made a big song and dance about it because if they did then the jig would be up.
AOC recently commented that a lot of organized resistance is happening that people can't talk about online. That's exactly the sort of thing she was talking about. A lot of similar stuff happened when Trump came into power the last time around. Some of it was reported on, a lot of it wasn't.
It will be happening this time too. Just because you don't see it, don't assume it isn't there.
That's a very good point.
Hence, the plans in Project 2025 to remove people who resist their plans in most bureaucracies and replace them with loyal followers. While they may not be as effective at running the bureaucracy, they will be very effective informants. And the bureaucracy being effective isn't high on their priorities. And on top of all that, their base will approve of the bureaucracies running poorly because they've been taught that they represent government waste. At least until they learn about all the things they do that they never thought about until they stop being done right, on time, or at all.
Not if people wait until the last line of the poem.
And then they came for me...
My trans ass doesn't have the luxury of waiting until the last line I'm right near the top. I've got plans in motion to leave the country but in the last bit of time I've got left here I'm doing what I can to help everyone who can't leave so easily. Things are scary here
That's the million dollar question.
At any rate I wish you guys luck. A fascist US is not a good thing for global liberal democracy.
The Milgram Experiment shows that most people will obey an authority figure that instructs them to do actions contrary to their conscience.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
the results of the milgram experiment have been under a lot of valid scientific criticism for at least ten years now
Oh, that's not surprising, being done in the 1960's. I can't say I'm aware of that criticism though, do you know the main issue with the experiment?
I think that's a bit too reductionist and negative. Historically there have been rebellions under far worse odds (some successful, some not).
At any rate, it's probably way too early to make any predictions or conclusions.