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How the Plane and Helicopter Crash in Washington, D.C., Happened: Maps and Graphics (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz

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Important context:

January 20: FAA director fired
January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Staffing was not normal at air traffic control

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trump killed 67 Americans and it’s still January 2025.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The last time he killed about 450.000 so, today is still below average.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 month ago

You're assuming that the plane crash is a full count. I'd be really surprised if some of the other things he's done this week (eg: limiting access to reimbursement for health care) haven't killed people.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is an overreach that minimizes the people who are actually impacted by Trump's actions.

This was the heli pilot's error, plain and simple. Tower was following protocol and did not grant clearance because they were short on staff or something ridiculous like that.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They were short on staff because of Trump.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This specific tower was not short on staff, and again, ATC doesn't just start issuing faulty clearances when they're short staffed.

Use your brain.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New York Times reported that "Staffing Was ‘Not Normal’ at Reagan Airport Tower, According to F.A.A. Report"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/business/air-traffic-control-staffing-plane-crash.html

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

If you read a little deeper, you'd know that ATC error wasn't the cause of the crash. The clearance issued was perfectly valid

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

Individual human failures are often a symptom of broader and larger systemic problems. Pointing out these systemic problems is not over reach.

[–] homesweethomeMrL -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but the Democrats hate trans people!!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LOOK, A SQUIRREL!

[–] homesweethomeMrL -2 points 1 month ago

A genoside squirrel!