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We don't know how likely life is in the universe, let alone intelligent life.
I just read your exchange with Solumbran and I must agree with them. The % could be so low as to make earth a statistical miracle. We just don't know because we only have a sample size of 1 living planet, and a star system full of dead ones. The reasonable position to take is to assume earth is the only planet with life until proven otherwise, as unlikely that may seem as first glance.
And if we go by statistics, people having hallucinations is more likely than having non-human made devices operating on Earth. Of course, this doesn't feel satisfying at all haha.
Regarding the Nimitz, we don't have telemetry. All we have is the testimony and video evidence, but the radar data was never published as far as I know. It's still the most compelling case. I'm craving to learn more of this case, but nearly 5 years have passed since the pentagon admitted it was real. I don't think they're going to spill the beans.
"we only have a sample size of 1 living planet"
arguably.
"a star system full of dead ones"
there's no evidence for this.
"if we go by statistics, people having hallucinations is more likely than having non-human made devices operating on Earth."
on which basis are you assuming this?
The basis of you being unaware of non-human-made devices operating on Earth?
or more made up statistics?
" regarding the nimits, we don't have telemetry".
The Nimitz incident is not the only telemetry-supported ufo incident by a long shot.
I know I sound dismissive of your criticisms, but you have to understand that on one side, there is radar data, credible witnesses, radiological data, photos and videos from multiple governments around the world, and the statistical unlikelihood of one bubble being "the only special bubble" where intelligent life can occur, and on the other side there is you and one other guy insisting that since neither of you personally believe in radar, video evidence, trained observers or credible witnesses, then that evidence isn't real.
That's simply incorrect.
you not believing or being ignorant of telemetry doesn't invalidate telemetry.
again, this is the "disclosure has happened but people don't want to believe it yet".
as an example:
you probably think that anti-vax arguments sound silly?
me too.
anti-vaxxers are denying readily available evidence while relying on an insufficient pool of assumptions that do not hold up to scrutiny.
that's where UFO deniers are at this point.