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That is one technology that I don't care if China steals secrets to make it happen faster.
If we were a smarter society, we’d end our stupid cold war with them and cooperate.
If they were a more humane society, we likely would.
More humane like Nazi-America, or more humane like Warcrimes-Russia? Description unclear, please clarify.
More humane like the best of us wish to be and the majority of us never will be
More humane as in respecting human rights I suppose
Is there a state that is not disrespecting human rights ? I for one haven't heard of any.
Degrees in hell maybe.
To clarify, what you're doing is "what-aboutism". Asking China to be more humane is not a comment on anything but China being more humane.
They weren't just asking China to be more humane, though. They were suggesting that China doesn't deserve our cooperation because they are inhumane, which implies we have the moral high ground and is explicitly hypocritical. It isn't whataboutism to point out hypocrisy.
There's a lot of assuming, implying, and suggesting in that take. The original just said if they were more humane we would work with them.
You don't at all see how that implies moral superiority? Or are you just giving them the benefit of the doubt?
The problem is holding China to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to.
I mean I could see how you could get that but it's not how I read it. I read it as they are not humane enough to effectively collaborate with.
I mean, listen, America is a huge hypocrisy so I'm not saying people aren't doing that, I guess I just read it more literally.
It's a bad take either way, and that interpretation makes way less sense. The reason we don't collaborate with China is geopolitical, and has nothing to do with ethics or China being too inhumane to effectively collaborate with (whatever that means).
I mean, I'm aware of the actual reason, I've never argued that lol.
China could stand to be more humane, but it wouldn't make the US cooperate with them.
Honestly China might start looking moderate compared to what I expect our new Dear Leader to do in the coming years.
Try to read up and understand what whataboutism means. Because you clearly didn't get the point of my comment.
You brought up other societies as compared them to us. It's the definition of what-aboutism, just read up on it again to make sure.