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It’s Nimarata Nikki Randhawa Haley
I am not cool with that actually. People have a right to use whatever names for themselves they choose. If that applies to trans people, which it does, it also applies to cis people.
If she wants to be Nikki Haley, fine.
I am OK with any and all vitriol being used to fight literal nazis
Don’t you think saying someone is only using her childhood Punjabi nickname is just trying to make people think she’s white is the kind of thing a Nazi might say?
Non-Western names can, believe it or not, sound like Western ones.
I hear what you are saying but in this context, someone is saying Vivek can not be elected in Ohio because of racism… they are saying yes that these folks with foreign sounding birth names were elected but only because they changed their names to something that sounds less “foreign” whatever that means.
While I can agree with you about anyone being able to change their name to whatever they want I don’t think the criticism you are trying to apply here is very…. Without a better word… accurate?
They are simply suggesting that Ohioans will vote for a foreigner or someone if they have a so called white sounding name. I have no idea if it’s true or not, but it feels like you’re being more of a troll here than actually than anything else.
Of course a trans person can change their name so other people can better relate and interact with the gender they identify with…. I hear you saying that you are trying to be true to your beliefs whether you support the persons politics, which is awesome I hope we can all strive to do the same.
I don’t think the poster cared that they changed their names to become governor of Ohio, but it is interesting… i have not seen or heard of any data that supports their premise, but anecdotally is sounds reasonable.
That may not have been what OP meant, I don’t know. But other people are saying she changed her name to sound white and it just isn’t true.
Has anyone asked her why she changed her name? I’ve heard or read articles suggesting that it was done to sound more white from progressive circles… I don’t really care if someone changes their name but it is interesting if they are doing it because their own constituents would see them as “other” had they not done it.
Ted Cruz is another example I think.
And oh yea don’t we have our first trans representative in congress now? I can’t remember what state but I remember Margerine Green Potato trying to pass a bill about bathrooms in the capitol recently?
I looked it up because no one else bothered to. It’s her childhood nickname and it means “little one” in Punjabi.
People here are just assuming it was about fooling people about her ethnicity.
And that has nothing to do with the fact that Nikki sounds more “American”
Do you really think her parents called her a Punjabi name in childhood to make her more American just because it sounds like a Western name?
Do you think if they had chosen a more Hindi or Indian sounding nickname she would call herself that?
What a strange and bigoted thing to say. You’re now suggesting she shouldn’t use the name her family calls her because it sounds to white despite the fact that it’s technically spelled ਨਿੱਕੀ. But that tends to not be accepted on U.S. I.D.s.
If she were Chinese and had a name she spelled Lee, would she be trying to sound white or are there Chinese names that sound like Western ones?
I'll default to respecting people's chosen names, but if they don't offer that respect to others, they lose it from me.
So if a trans person doesn’t respect someone’s chosen name, you will deadname them? Doesn’t that make you no better than people like Haley?
Doesn't the trans person not respecting someone's chosen name make them no better than Haley?
Decency is a social contract. I'll default to being decent to others, but if they're not decent to those around them, I feel no qualms with being similarly indecent to them. The difference is that I only do that in response to their indecency and will happily stop if they start being decent. This is no different from the paradox of tolerance.
You didn't answer my question. Would you deadname them?
Come on now you’re being ridiculous.
Is that a yes or a no? And please explain why. Insults are not answers.
Wasn’t me you were asking. I have a few trans friends and I try to use the correct name but when you have known and lived with them for close to ten years sometimes I mess up lol.
What is dead naming again? Calling them the wrong name intentionally as an insult?
Interesting you compare Nimarata’s attempt to cover her origins so she can be more appealing to her conservative audience to the dead names of trans people. I guess you’re saying it’s totally cool to identify as a different race when it works in your favor. Personally, I think such comparisons are an insult to trans people.
No, I think people are allowed to change their names and other people should respect their chosen identities.
I assume you don't talk about President Leslie Lynch King Jr. despite the fact that he changed his name to Gerald Ford because it sounded more manly, right? Who cares why people change their name?
The whole point is that this should be a universal acceptance thing.
I was born a poor, black child.
Please do show me where she used her childhood Punjabi nickname to convince people she’s white.
My god, there are so many legitimate things to criticize her for and people are just stuck on something that isn’t.
Yea I don’t care about her name as much as I do about her policy for sure, it’s just an interesting point someone brought up about how Vivek may have trouble getting elected with a “foreign” sounding name.
As someone who has traveled across the country multiple times i am slightly weary of going through Ohio because of hillbilly racism, and I am a white dude
It’s important to remember where she came from
No it isn’t. Self-identity is self-identity. Why should someone be an exception just because they’re horrible? Caitlyn Jenner is a Trump supporter and killed a person. Should we call her Bruce?
Because they are running for fucking governor dude
Someone can only run for governor if they use their full legal name to do so? When did this law get passed? As I have pointed out already to two others, Nikki was her childhood nickname and it is a Punjabi word. This is no different from why Beto O’Rourke calls himself that. It was his childhood nickname. And, similarly, people came up with all sorts of nefarious reasons why he was doing it.
Anyway, now I have to look up Beto’s real name. The topic is interesting because elected officials are changing their names, I’m not sure it relates to why trans folks change their names as much as you seem to think it does.
It has to do with respecting someone’s identity and maybe not accuse them of pretending to change her ethnicity when there’s no evidence since, you know, that’s pretty fucking bigoted.
Meh, I guess we are just going to have to disagree on some things, I believe that it’s okay to scrutinize our politicians and their decisions they have made in life to a higher degree than what might be acceptable for a regular citizen.
She put herself in the public spotlight in a way that other citizens have not done, and our politicians deserve scrutiny. The policies she has advocated for in the past are quite atrocious which does not help her cause in my opinion but obviously others support her to some degree.
I would consider this a non issue if it were someone who was even in the same ballpark as me politically, but regardless I do see how it is an issue that could have some relevance to be discussed, even if I agreed with her for the most part politically.
I never said she can’t be scrutinized. I said it’s fucking bigoted to say that the reason why she is called Nikki is so she can sound white when that is not in any way the case since, again, it was a Punjabi childhood nickname.
You do understand that Punjabi isn’t English, right? And that non-English names can sound like English ones? You know, like Asian people named Li or Lee? And you know that Punjabi doesn’t use the Latin alphabet, so it can be spelled however you like with the Latin alphabet, right?
There are so many legitimate things to criticize her for, but you are going with, “she’s trying to make people think she’s white by using a South Asian name.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_(given_name)
I suppose she could calll herself ਨਿੱਕੀ, but that is pronounced the same way, so…
No, but if she started calling herself a humanitarian, I’m not going to. If she started calling herself Native American, I wouldn’t. If she started calling herself god, I wouldn’t.
And neither would you—I hope.
This is a name, not an ethnicity.
Also, she didn't change it for political reasons, you just decided she did. It was her childhood nickname and it means "little one" in Punjabi. It took seconds for me to find out that out.
So you're essentially saying that she is lying about being Indian-American by using her childhood nickname. Are you sure that's what you want to go with?
Exactly. Until she respects trans people, she's a Nimrod to me.