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$10.24 a day to risk their lives – and a lot of pride: incarcerated LA firefighters speak out (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/news

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“I’ve never seen anything burn so quick,” said Almanza, 42, recounting the first day of the Eaton fire near Pasadena, California. “Our captains have to make the hard decisions: get yourselves killed or let the house burn.” His eyes welled up recounting the properties devoured as his crew had no choice but to retreat: “I was just so sad and emotional, because there was nothing we could do.”

Almanza is one of thousands of first responders who have put their lives on the line battling the historic windstorm-fueled fires that have ravaged LA.

Almanza is incarcerated and currently serving a state prison sentence, making up to $10.24 in daily wages fighting the wildfires, with $1 hourly bonuses while on the frontlines. Since last week, the California department of corrections and rehabilitation (CDCR) has deployed more than 1,100 incarcerated firefighters to the LA infernos, which have become some of the deadliest and most destructive in the region’s history.

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[–] Rhoeri 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And you can’t know for sure exactly how things work in voluntary prison work, yet assume to know. What you’re doing is basing your entire argument on an assumption derived from the logic of a “fun” quote from a book.

There is no evidence to support your assumption. And there is no evidence needed to support mine, as the burden lies ion you to prove I’m wrong. I’ll need something more substantial than fiction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just wondering if you've spent any time in one of the 16 American prisons that "encourages" prisoners to fight forest fires?

Because if not then you don't know how it works either, and should probably sit down.

[–] Rhoeri 0 points 2 days ago

Great. Then it’s established that neither of us have a dog in this race and know nothing about how it works enough to complain about or defend it- so maybe we should both admit we don’t know enough to opine on it.

(which was my plan all along)