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[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 10 hours ago

What’s the fucking point of having supermajority power if you’re not going to wield it to make long lasting change that would benefit the country, not just reelection funds?

That's an excellent question. I suppose we could ask Joe Lieberman - oh wait he dead. Anyway, yeah I dunno. There's an "inside baseball" level to national politics that probably explained how all that went down, presumably in book form, but I don't know.

Fwiw I don't think they got any huge bounce in election funds but I do know people who didn't have any ability to see a doctor and then got one. So. Y'know. Like I say, "some good." Not ALL the good, just some. It's almost always the only thing we can get. And that's after lots of scrapping.

You’re cool with “better” and want me to be thankful? We just saw a vigilante murder the UHC CEO, and the bipartisan response is “meh” to”fuckem” due to decades of common discontent - but you’re happy with the status quo?

Hold up there Cletus, that's two whole different things there. I am, in fact, cool with "better". Better is gooder. More gooder is better. Do I want you to be thankful? Fuck, I don't care - I'm saying you got something out of a huge effort which had been in the works for years and was a hair away from imploding yet again with grave consequences for the people trying to make things better. If you're not thankful, that's for you to chew on, not me.

As to the status quo- fuck no. The two are not related in any way. The status quo is for shit. BUT: at least people who don't have anything can get something. In this hellish area of politics, that's fucking huge. And to be clear the hell part of it is all thanks to the republiQans. Who created and perpetuated this bullshit. ACA was all we could get because Obama had one big ticket item they were willing to give for five seconds and that's what he picked. Even now they keep trying to kill it and reduce it and all the shithole states reject ACA money anyway. Was it a glorious victory? In a couple of ways, YES. Did it make everything super awesome? NO. Those are two different questions.

No it wasn’t honored in the legislature, we’ve had ‘trigger laws’ on the books in deeply Republican states for decades.

I think you misunderstood what I meant there. Passing a bad-faith law that had no validity and praying to jeezus that trump would win and appoint crooked ass fascists is not what I meant. Even then that was not decades. Find me the first instance of an anti-abortion trigger law. Is it before 2019? I'll be surprised.

No it wasn’t honored in the courts

Did someone go to jail for having an abortion under Roe? Okay then if not honored, "respected as law"? "Not acted against with impunity"?

Your revisionist history is filtered through chickenshit leadership who failed to stand tall and do something.

Yeah but now you're here with all the answers and a magical third-party wand. I'm sure there's nothing you need to know, so get in there! Get 'er done! I'll vote for it.