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We don’t learn. Trump is a lolcow. He generates outrage over absurdity to gain media leverage. This recent media cycle is not an accident and I am disappointed that we didn’t learn our lesson the first decade of this.

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[–] partial_accumen 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (24 children)

I think we did learn our lesson though. All of those things not being talked about in headlines (concentration camps, education defunding, etc) are what the majority of American voters want. Its not that Americans don't know President Musk (and vice president trump) are putting those forward, its that they agree with those horrible positions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

I get what you’re saying so no hate but…

Its not that Americans don’t know

Except, no. In most cases Americans don’t know. See: every single post in c/leopardsatemyface. Americans near universally prefer policies further to the left than the candidates they elect. Example.

The entire Republican platform is based on lying and then distracting voters.

  • Trump caters to racist America by promising to deport migrants, but doesn’t say how that is done (detention camps and similar which are very unpopular).
  • Republicans cater to transphobes by promising to ban trans women from sports, but doesn’t say how this is done (penis inspection day which is very unpopular).
  • And other examples.

The majority of voters don’t want detention camps or harrasment of trans children. The majority of voters wanted Trump.

It’s totally fair that you didn’t know this, but I hope it can be vindicating now that you do. The gap between public preferences and actual political outcomes is massive, and is kept that way precisely by the strategic ambiguity, distraction, and misinformation that I made this post to illustrate. Does this perspective make sense?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You're being too charitable. All that doesn't excuse the fact that half of Americans willingly embrace hateful policies in the first place. The logistics of implementation are not all that relevant if you hear something like "we will deport one million immigrants" and think yeah, that sounds great to me.

[–] WhatYouNeed 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not half:

Total US population who voted for tangerine: Around 22%, or 1 in 4

US population who could vote and did vote for tangerine: 31%, or 1 in 3

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