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I disagree. Now I've never read the books, I only know the TV show. She took out slavers, oppressors, just generally people that would be the villain archetype and there was never some big reveal that actually anyone she was taking down wasn't just that. By that same logic, my great grandfather is a bad guy because he helped take down Nazi's in WWII, a group most would agree, were the bad guys.
She flipped at a sound of a bell against unarmed, innocent citizens who didn't even know who she was.
But by all means, I'm down to watch Episode 1 again, what scene exactly foreshadows her going genocidal?
dude she married into khal drogo and had things gone well her and the dothraki would be raping and pillaging all of westeros
she also has to be talked out of slaughtering all her enemies, something that ramsay bolton actually does (doesnt work out well for him)
id have to watch episode 1 again to see what the foreshadowing was, or if i was wrong and it happens in a different episode
also your grandfather analogy is nowhere near the same as for daenarys, your grandfather was not conquering the countries occupied by nazis and personally burning everyone down, before eventually moving on to the soviet union because stalin executed his best friend. that did not happen. rewatch the series in the eyes of dany was always the mad queen, and youll find you were justifying her most implusove and abhorrant behaviors for all of the show
The marriage to Drogo was an arranged marriage, to help Viserys get the crown.
There's a difference between who traditionally were her enemies and Ramsay's enemies... And it's medieval times. Again, she really only had it out for oppressors. She went through many areas w/o slaughtering everyone.
The whole mad queen, which might be foreshadowed in the books, was not in the show. The Mad King, the thing everyone pointed too, was caused by Bran. The "Mad King" was just fine. Just like Hodor was just fine until Bran came along. But because he never is like "oh hey guys, yeah, turns out the mad king saying "burn them all" was actually my fault" so the myth/legend around it always going to happen due to "reason", at least in the show, falls apart. From my understanding, the books do foreshadow more of Daenerys's madness and its possible edits from D&D end up casting her in a very different light. Which just echo's how shit D&D were/are.
mad queen was foreshadowed in the show, i just told you where and when and how to see it
Alright, you're just wanting to be stubborn. You literally didn't say when and where, just vaguely "the show". I was sincere of you knew when and where I'd watch it again, but you couldn't cite anything specific.
https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/13/game-of-thrones-daenerys-mad-queen/
sorry to link to EW but this actually shows specifics of what I was talking about