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i never quite got what was so bad about the ending. i heard for years how shit it ended and i waited for the show to become shit and i waited so long that the final episode finished and i was still waiting for the shit
Honestly, /r/freefolk really have a nice list.
The quality of writing tanked.
Multiple story threads from all the way back to season one went literally no where (like the patterns), Arya and the Faceless Ones. So many characters who just blinked out of existence because D&D forgot they existed and they didn't directly server the plot (like literally everyone following Bran around for so many seasons).
Characters started not acting like themselves. Daenerys went from the savior of the people to mad queen... a roll that better fir Cersei, in a blink of an eye because of "bells". Cersei nukes a chunk of the cities. Daenerys earned the title 'Queen of Meereen' from her campaign in Slaver's Bay. Bran was shown to be the villain and it's literally never addressed. He has wild powers and doesn't use it. Seems to go from an innocent child on a wild adventure to positioning himself as king.... instead of anyone else that would have made sense. "Who has a better story"... FFS, EVERYONE. And D & D seemed to forget the "Mad King" was saying "Burn them all" because Bran, yet again, fucked with someones head.
D & D forgot where Westeros was... Also forgot about the Iron Fleet
Cersei dies by brick to the head... (just more pointing out the lame writing). Contrast that with like, Eddard's execution.
Just go to /r/Freefolk... Season 7 and 8 were shit. Because D & D wanted to abandon GoT to go do Star Wars. HBO had more money for them, told them they could do more seasons. Naw, last 2 they phoned it in with 2 "seasons" there were the length of 1 and the quality of the aftermath of a night out of drunk taco bell binge eating....
daenarys was going to be the mad queen from episode 1, so that specific complaint has no ground because you can see the foreshadowing all over the series. honestly, think of all the times daenarys had to be talked out of mass slaughtering
I disagree. Now I've never read the books, I only know the TV show. She took out slavers, oppressors, just generally people that would be the villain archetype and there was never some big reveal that actually anyone she was taking down wasn't just that. By that same logic, my great grandfather is a bad guy because he helped take down Nazi's in WWII, a group most would agree, were the bad guys.
She flipped at a sound of a bell against unarmed, innocent citizens who didn't even know who she was.
But by all means, I'm down to watch Episode 1 again, what scene exactly foreshadows her going genocidal?
dude she married into khal drogo and had things gone well her and the dothraki would be raping and pillaging all of westeros
she also has to be talked out of slaughtering all her enemies, something that ramsay bolton actually does (doesnt work out well for him)
id have to watch episode 1 again to see what the foreshadowing was, or if i was wrong and it happens in a different episode
also your grandfather analogy is nowhere near the same as for daenarys, your grandfather was not conquering the countries occupied by nazis and personally burning everyone down, before eventually moving on to the soviet union because stalin executed his best friend. that did not happen. rewatch the series in the eyes of dany was always the mad queen, and youll find you were justifying her most implusove and abhorrant behaviors for all of the show
The marriage to Drogo was an arranged marriage, to help Viserys get the crown.
There's a difference between who traditionally were her enemies and Ramsay's enemies... And it's medieval times. Again, she really only had it out for oppressors. She went through many areas w/o slaughtering everyone.
The whole mad queen, which might be foreshadowed in the books, was not in the show. The Mad King, the thing everyone pointed too, was caused by Bran. The "Mad King" was just fine. Just like Hodor was just fine until Bran came along. But because he never is like "oh hey guys, yeah, turns out the mad king saying "burn them all" was actually my fault" so the myth/legend around it always going to happen due to "reason", at least in the show, falls apart. From my understanding, the books do foreshadow more of Daenerys's madness and its possible edits from D&D end up casting her in a very different light. Which just echo's how shit D&D were/are.
mad queen was foreshadowed in the show, i just told you where and when and how to see it
Alright, you're just wanting to be stubborn. You literally didn't say when and where, just vaguely "the show". I was sincere of you knew when and where I'd watch it again, but you couldn't cite anything specific.
https://ew.com/tv/2019/05/13/game-of-thrones-daenerys-mad-queen/
sorry to link to EW but this actually shows specifics of what I was talking about
Yeah, that's actually one point where I think the books were a bit weak. To me, she already was the mad Queen. How many people were slaughtered at her command in the books? If John Snow had slaughtered whole cities because they wouldn't bend the knee, we could be expected to say some mean things about him.