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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No, everyone doesn't hate capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

The capitalist class that expropriates the working class’ surplus value sure doesn’t hate capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah alot of them love capitalism so hard, while simultaneously bemoaning every single part of capitalism, while being too stupid to be convinced the two are connected.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's a question of education. They're not stupid, but ignorant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

To be honest, I have never meant the word stupid to mean anything outside of "decided they already know everything and have thus stop allowing themselves capable of learning", I dont believe anyone is actually stupid, they just stop learning and it appears the same way anyways.

[–] AdrianTheFrog 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but everyone hates the big companies and the rich people

its just that the right has been told that the left are the rich people (and then the left say that the neoliberals are the rich people, etc)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you think the problem with big companies and rich people is that individual rich people and the CEOs they elect just happen to be bad people?

[–] AdrianTheFrog 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The people who are willing to do more unethical stuff to make a profit make more of a profit, and become more powerful as a natural consequence, so the problem is with the system that incentives this and brings it to the top

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then I am confused why you would disagree with the left, that the political philosophy of capitalism, liberalism, is to blame.

[–] AdrianTheFrog 1 points 1 month ago

It's just that the right blames the capitalism on the left and the left blames the capitalism on the right, and the actual liberals end up being barely opposed

I don't know what the takeaway from that should be, it's just an observation/simplification that feels generally true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Individuals being bad isn't really the problem. Within a company, jobs are performed in order to fulfill a fiduciary responsibility. You could argue that this makes people bad in some cases, but it's not always cut and dry.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. Capitalism can be made to work well for most people, as shown in many European and Asian countries. You need strong regulations (and for workers to engage in unions and in voting). People (specially on lemmy) seem to mix American oligarchy with capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

My country speedran capitalistic invasion in 30 years. Or 23. Depends how you count it.