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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I ended up switching to Gnome because KDE would always feel a bit jank to me. Something about it always feels slightly off, animations not working properly or being choppy like my desktop had an unstable framerate. Might just be it fighting with Nvidia, but I don't have several hundred bucks lying around to upgrade my card and switch to AMD...

    Kind of odd seeing the massive hate boner the community seems so have for Gnome, at least we have options for desktop environments at all.

    [–] semperverus 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    My problem with Gnome is the foundation itself.

    They act like they know best, and rarely listen to user feedback.

    They act like Apple, and that is very bad.

    Not only that, but they also act like they are the default and only desktop on Linux, and rarely if ever cooperate with other desktop groups to make things work smoothly.

    They are dragged kicking and screaming into following standards, and were the biggest source of NACKs (effectively a "veto") on the Wayland protocol and a huge reason why Wayland still isn't complete after over a decade of design.

    The gnome desktop is pretty, but it is not functional. You can make it functional by installing gobs of extensions, but those extensions don't follow a cohesive workflow concept, and often break with updates. It's like trying to mod Skyrim or Minecraft.


    To contrast that, KDE:

    • Explicitly listens to its users and has scheduled times for specifically taking in user feedback (within the scope of broad goals)

    • Actively works to be interoperable with other environments

    • Follows standards and pushes them forward

    • Has all the functionality out of the box, and can be made pretty with extensions/assets (the inverse of Gnome).

    • Functionality mostly doesnt break on updates unless it's major (like switching to Wayland as the primary development target).

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I don't say much about it because it's stupid to argue, but I've used a LOT of different desktop interfaces over the past 45+ years (yeah, really!), and GNOME...well, GNOME sucks. When Gnome3 was first released we all had high hopes for it improving on Gnome2 (which for those of us on Unix systems was a huge improvement over CDE), and instead it was buggy, clunky, awkward, and an enormous resource hog. Oh yeah, and it was massively unconfigurable. AND it continued to not improve for many many years, until most people I know switched to KDE or one of the other environments (MATE, Cinnamon, and xfce were very popular).

    Gnome 4x added a touchscreen paradigm, whether you had a touchscreen or not, and made the experience worse in the process.

    If you like it, great! Use it and love it all you want! I'll play with it once every year or so just to see if someone has finally designed something that doesn't suck so badly, but for a functional desktop, no thanks.

    I think the fact that most of the 'fringe' desktops are well-known in the community because of people trying to escape GNOME is pretty telling.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Gnome x.x added a paradigm, whether you need it or not, and made the experience worse in the process.

    There. The last couple decades of GNOME development in a nutshell.

    [–] Doomsider 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    If you used Gnome back in the day you know there was a lot of that configurability built in. Then one day the developer decided to start taking it away. Slowly but surely all the ability to configure Gnome was removed. If you experienced this arc like I did you were left scratching your head.

    Yes KDE was always more configurable, but removing what configurability Gnome did have made it less useful. For power users this is a big deal. It is like a company taking away all your features and thinking you are going to like it.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

    I think the gnome haters are just the loudest. I've had all of the same issues with KDE and gnome has just always worked for me. Sure it's not as customizable, but it gets the job done without annoying issues.