If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.
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Explain how Batman was not a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis ?
lmaooo
tangentially I feel like Batman could never jive with leftist ideology anyhow. His whole thing is beating and scaring the crime out of people, which is in contrast to the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.
Like, why do people always jump to thinking there can only be one correct option out of multiple choices?
I am sure there are many people committing crimes because they can't fulfill their basic needs any other way.
But do you think Trump is lacking in material conditions? People are diverse and they commit crimes for diverse reasons.
Nah, you're right, it definitely isn't as simple as all due to the material conditions, although I do tend to think the majority of crime is due to them. At the same time, I'm not sure I'm using material conditions in the correct technical sense, and was thinking about including a , "someone feel free to correct my usage" note in my comment. I also wasnt really itching for a super in-depth conversation about it, even though your question
is a really interesting one that I'd need to think and talk about a lot. I think if we had appropriate non coercive controls against accumulation of property, while also living in a society that met the physical, psychological, and social needs of its people, Trump perhaps would not be a criminal.
This comes from my tendency to think people are more inherently good than evil, and that much of the evil comes from the patriarchal culture of accumulation
Because crime to account for material needs is the easiest route to lowering crime you just need to have a government that represents the people and not private interests, also consider that living in a corrupt unforgiving oligarchy isn't doing a god damn thing for mental health either.
You do realize none of what you wrote answers my question nor contradicts anything I wrote, right?
Lol responded to the wrong comment.
Relevant HIGNFY
Good point ☝️
Also batman didn't change the systemic issues with Gotham.
This is exactly what I have been saying since the assassination. You cannot fix systemic problems with vigilantism.
Did anyone's coverage go down? No. Did UHC just deny the claim of a woman in a coma? Yes.
https://www.newsweek.com/united-healtchare-claim-deny-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-insurance-2008307
You cannot fix systemic problems with vigilantism.
Well you can't fix it from within the system. You can't fix it with vigilantism, but it can be fixed as every other country in earth has fixed this problem.
The fuck do you people want then?
Fix it within the system using the threat of vigilantism as the or else.
That’s how we got worker rights… threat of communism.
There was time to fix it from within the system. That was before the fascist dictator was elected. There is no fix at this point. The good news is it will almost certainly come all crashing down due to incompetence and you only have a few years before global warming because a much bigger problem than healthcare anyway.
What do I want? A socialist utopia. I'm just not under any illusions about it happening in America.
No, there demonstrably wasn't. This happened under Biden.
Sorry, do you think time began in 2020?
You apparently do. Trump has nothing, whatsoever, to do with the state of healthcare, and won't. The ACA was a Republican think tank health plan, and is directly responsible for the state we're in. Healthcare reform hasn't been on the table in a serious manner in this country, from any party.
Trump has everything to do with the fact that there is not going to be any chance to do any sort of progressive reforms in America again in the foreseeable future. Just like there are not going to be any elections again in the foreseeable future.
You still think things are fixable in the U.S.
You are in for a rude awakening.
Please quote me endorsing a single right-wing policy. My entire comment history is open to you.
(Weird as fuck to call me right wing when I've been calling Trump a fascist dictator. Do you think that's an endorsement or something?)
You supported Biden and Harris.
If by "support" I told everyone to vote for them once the primaries were over because the only viable alternative would be a fascist dictatorship that would be the end of America and the start of at least two genocides.
And now look at where we're heading. And Harris lost, meaning this should be what you want, so I don't know why you're calling me right-wing when you wanted the fascist dictator to win.
Yeah, supporting genocide in order to prevent a genocide that the person you're voting for is also advocating for because harris went so far right on immigration Trump wasn't the greater evil is still right wing.
We're not in a dictatorship, or rather we're in the same exact dictatorship of capital.
Again, Harris lost, which is what you wanted. The right-winger won. That was the only other option, so it must have been what you wanted.
So I have no idea why you're calling me right-wing. Or why you're defending Trump.
No, I wanted a left wing populist. Or at least someone that promised popular (>60%) policies like m4a, stopping support of Israel, elimination of given BLM mining/drilling contracts, maybe even mention minimum wage.
Instead we got a right wing cop with a border policy more draconic than anything Trump has ever suggested.
No shit she lost. She wasn't different, and used the least popular policies.
Again, there were two viable options- Trump or Harris. You made it clear just now that Harris should have lost. That means you wanted Trump to win.
And now you're defending him by saying he won't be a dictator even though he literally says he'll be a dictator and that he won't be committing genocides even though he has made his genocidal plans very clear and he's being aided in them right now.
So, again, you got what you wanted and you're defending your choice. So I have no idea why you're calling me right-wing.
Both of them should have lost. Most people are worse off now than in 2020. Another four years of either Harris or Trump is bad. Supporting wither right wing option makes you right wing. Repeating the bullshit argument that you had no choice but to vote for genocide and mass deportation does nothing to change anything.
Now I voted for Trump? I thought I supported Biden and Harris. Make up your mind.
So let me get this straight... Harris wanted genocide and mass deportation, but Trump doesn't want either of those things.
This you?
How do you think either Harris or Trump would achieve mass deportations and genocide without dictatorial powers?
Please explain the legal mechanism.
This should be good.
Sure. See the bill introduced by the Biden administration for exact details on that. Trump aligned Republicans stopped it from getting passed, as it would have removed he entirety of Trump's immigration platform.
If it did, you can explain the legal mechanism for mass deportations and genocide without dictatorial powers.
Please do so.
Sure, cops receive orders to arrest and hand over to ice anyone without id that is likely not a citizen. They have a legal requirement to do so via the bill. They do, ice them deports them with minimal safeguards. Lawsuits to stop that takes decades because it's a legal act of Congress legally enforced by police at multiple levels of government.
None of this requires a single party dictatorship. It is pathetic you cannot understand this, and it is extra pathetic you decided to ban me from the subs you moderate because you lost this discussion.
Sorry, local cops cannot have a legal requirement to do that. That would only be possible in a dictatorship.
I'm starting to think you're not in the U.S. based on the things you're saying.
Batman repeatedly made attempts at systemic change using his wealth. It's kind of his arc - he starts young out of anger and rage with his only limit being he would not kill. As he ages, his various funds and programs he starts run into roadblocks from criminals seeking to exploit vulnerabilities in then to enrich themselves. But his biggest problem (in Gotham at least) is that there are many villains who simply want to fight progress because it makes them feel good. His money can do a lot of the work, but his particular skills allow him to apprehend some of the biggest challenges to his goals.
But he's still human. He's still deeply flawed. That's sort of the whole point. He's not fixing everything alone, he can't. None of us can.
Lets be real, Batman's method of vigilantism was to beat up the people being hurt the most by the system, the poor, the lonely, the mentally unhinged, he didn't really participate in going after the people responsible for sad state of affairs in Gotham.
Also you cant fix this country with a fully captured government either, so is your point that we should just give up?
Or will you accept that in this case, the plural of vigilante is revolutionaries.
Ah yes, the great revolution that's been coming any day now my entire life that will set everything right.
Weird how this revolution didn't happen before the fascist dictator got into power when it might have had a much greater chance of success.
I don't really care what you do. Feel free to think America will be a socialist paradise with permanent Republican rule and if it isn't, the people who either voted for Trump or didn't give enough of a shit to vote at all will totally rise up and change things. Sounds probable.
https://youtu.be/8l1PMVvfjDM