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You can't kill exploiters as fast as they reproduce, humans exploit by their very nature.
The only possible solution is a legislative one. Vote blue, overturn Citizens United. Empower the EPA. That's the integral first step.
Disagree. Voting is necessary, of course, but it is NOT the first step. America just voted in Wish Hitler for his second term because he has a huge propaganda machine propping him up. Legislatively, he got the most votes and things are working as intended.
We need to change people's minds, and that requires organization, direct action, and our own propaganda.
And of course we shouldn't kill people, but if DEATH was a consequence for exploiting people, then exploitation would at least be minimized instead of happening proudly in broad daylight.
In 2020 an extra 10 Million people voted to remove Trump and put Biden in.
Biden reversed inflation, implemented holding time limitations for the ICE, got the EPA and stream protections back in working order, set the FTC on investigating big corporations over privacy and cost of living, and tried to cancel over a trillion in debt for students and healthcare but sadly only managed to cancel hundreds of billions and remove healthcare debts from credit history.
Demonstrably, we just need to energize people to vote blue.
Now imagine if we could have gotten 60 senators from that team. The team that wants to remove Citizens United the ones who tried to pass HR1 For The People Act multiple timrs when they only had 50 votes.
We can very easily fix all of this shit, just vote and do voter outreach.
Why do you think Trump won?
I agree that Biden made good progress, and that Dems are pushing for the right things, but even with that progress and platform voters still handed the country back to Trump.
Maybe put another way, what are the ways to energize people to vote blue? Actually governing well clearly isn't it.
I think Trump won because the vast majority of Americans aren't just uneducated about issues but also in general are misinformed. Everyone thinks Trump was good for the economy and Biden was bad. Everyone thinks Genocide Joe gives Netanyahu everything he wants and that Trump will end the war.
We need to fight back by teaching and informing voters. We need to spread the word, each of us needs to, to get people excited to vote for not just the shinier turd but the candidates who are actually good for us and for democracy as a whole. Door to door. Pamphlets. Billboards. Town halls. Even, or perhaps especially, memes and short form video content.
Definitely agree about voters being misinformed. It really worries me that there isn't a consensus reality with agreement on even what the problems are, let alone solutions.
I recently read this and found it helpful: https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/how-to-think-about-politics-without
Basically, it says that politicians won't do the right thing because it's the right thing, they'll do whatever is politically advantageous. In that framing, our role is to make it advantageous for them to do the right thing.
A video I've seen in this realm is this one: https://youtu.be/yXOgbbHyii8
He's aiming for much loftier goals than individual policies like universal healthcare, but I especially like his points on effective ways to allocate your energy.
Personally, I fall somewhere between him and the Contrapoints video he's responding to - I think we should absolutely vote for politicians and policies that move us in the right direction, but I think it's much more important overall to build collective power outside of the state (unions / community organizations). Ideally, I'd like to spend 90% of my effort on organizing and 10% on voting and voter engagement.
I don't think that allocation is objectively correct, or that there even exists a "right" way to engage. Different folks have different values, strengths, and interests, and I think the most important thing is that we're all pulling in the same direction of "get everyone's basic needs met."
Lmao no
There's a pretty clear right way to engage. Show empathy, tell the truth, supply evidence.
Wait what's the problem with anark?
It's fine to have unique political ideologies and aspirations, but anybody who preaches dissolution of the state is not a person on your side for supporting an established political party or passing reforms.
Their idea of "fixing the problem" is not a realistic or reasonable way to fix the problem. They can't help us, they can't help anybody.
This commenter is a bad actor. Don’t trust people who insist you must ‘work through the system.’
"The only solution is legislative" in a legislature that's captured by capital and a reactionary fascist movement.
We are once again politely petitioning Mr. Netanyahu to stop obliterating Palestinians and Mr. Putin to GTFO of Ukraine.
Palestine is still getting obliterated, arguably will be oblitterated more than ever before with war spreading to Jordan and possibly Iran, and with Ukraine we were doing more than just asking. We sent intercontinental balistics strongly worded letters.
Citizens United and Campaign Finance are strongly partisan issues. DNC passed HR1 For the People Act multiple times only for Republicans to filibuster it. Hell, DNC passed the 1995 and 2002 law that Citizens United fought in court in the first place.
Democrats keep insisting they need 60 votes in the Senate to do anything, while Republicans continue to get by just fine on a simple majority.
If Republicans had 60 votes you'd be living in an evangelical theocracy without any public healthcare or environmental protections. This isn't the bottom, mate. There is still a long way down.
Yes. Simply imagine what that would be like, I say from the bleeding heart of Texas.