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Killed women count: 80 women allegedly killed by men in UK in 2024 (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/world

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Throughout 2024, the Guardian aimed to report on every woman allegedly killed by a man, drawing on the work of campaigns such as Counting Dead Women, the Femicide Census and Killed Women.

In recent years in the UK, a woman has been killed by a man every three days on average, yet most of their stories have gone unheard. The Guardian wants to help change that.

This year, the toll of women whose deaths have led to a man being charged has reached 80. Here, we mark each of their lives.

None of these incidents are linked in any way other than that a woman has been killed and a man charged in connection with her death.

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[–] JustARaccoon 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It shouldn't discredit the women's deaths, but we do live in a climate where men are seen exclusively as current and temporarily embarrassed perpetrators, and less so as fellow victims.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How many men are killed because they are men?

The violence men face is different from the one women face.

[–] lennybird 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

we do live in a climate where men are seen exclusively as current and temporarily embarrassed perpetrators, and less so as fellow victims.

All due respect, but where is your evidence because the way I see it is this (male here btw):

Men perpetrate the vast majority of homicides.
Men overwhelmingly control the vast majority of wealth and power positions, globally.
Men are responsible for the vast majority of wars throughout history.
Men are responsible for the majority of physical domestic violence cases — particularly those leading to homicide.
Is there anywhere in the world where men are oppressed by women the way women are in, say, Afghanistan or Iran or Russia (legalized domestic violence)?

The data in the UK probably doesn't exist because the instances are that much more rare. I'm open to being wrong, but until numbers are brought to the table, we're talking data vs. speculation. What we do know is that Men account for 85-95% of convicted homicides, globally, making an outsized number relative to the portion that they are victims (somewhere around 75%). Of this subset, the most rare scenario is a male victim and female perpetrator.

There are of course instances of women murdering men and those should not be downplayed; but let's neither invoke a false equivalence fallacy.

[–] Alexstarfire 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one said they were oppressed. They said men can also be victims.

[–] lennybird 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Of course. It's just a curious comment section that shifts to a falsely equivalent whataboutism fallacy when the subject-matter at hand given the submission is a very present and documented danger. I of course would not be opposed to anyone submitting data that they or someone else gathers for male victims of female perpetrators, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

According to data I shouldn't be getting into any relationship with a woman because they're the leading perpetrators of psychological violence. I could be driven into depression, into suicide, even to be physically violent.

Can we please the fuck stop weaponising the behaviour of assclowns. On either side.