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[–] FlashMobOfOne 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Until the Democratic Party stops excluding the Bernies of the world, elections like these are what we're going to get. No one believes Democrats will actually do what they say they're going to do, not even their own voters.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Until the Democratic Party stops excluding the Bernies of the world

So long as the entire corporate media system is poisoned against even the most mild democratic socialism of a 1980s-style left-liberal, the party isn't going to do that.

Go back and watch what happened in 2020 when Sanders won Nevada. MSNBC, the "liberal" news outlet had Chris Matthews wailing in fear at the prospect of being lynched in Central Park. FOX News was screeching about how the entire campaign had been infiltrated by Chinese Communists and Hamas Terrorists. I'm amazed Sanders didn't get the Harvey Milk treatment after he took California.

Bernie Sanders, AOC, and the progressive movement as a whole is entirely at odds with the Amazons and Starbucks and JP Morgan Chases that rule our world. Even in big blue states like New York (in big blue cities like NYC), progressives can't win the high offices, because the establishment is so nakedly hostile to economic populism. Bernie's own bright blue home state of Vermont voted in a Republican for governor by a Ba'ath Party 73/21 margin, rather than tolerate another Howard Dean style progressive Dem in that seat.

No one believes Democrats will actually do what they say they’re going to do

Joe Biden to rich donors: "Nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected

I believed him. I believed statements like this paved his road to victory in 2020.

[–] FlashMobOfOne -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I believed him. I believed statements like this paved his road to victory in 2020.

Absolutely.

I'll admit I voted Biden in 2020, thinking that a cultural win against resurgent American fascism would help turn the tide of history. (I didn't have any delusions that he'd actually rule as a progressive.)

Four years later, with millions more in poverty, it's only done the opposite.

[–] AA5B 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I voted for Biden in 2020 wanting to give people a chance to remember they’re human, one timescale hoping that his centrist approach had a chance of fixing government. I voted for him again seeing that he made all the attempts anyone could imagine and was starting to attempt a few more progressive things

Trump is not fit to run the bank in a game of Monopoly, and I would vote against it

[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd vote Charlie Sheen over Trump

[–] Warl0k3 3 points 6 days ago

At least he'd be able to act like he cared...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would mean the DNC forever losing control of the party and therefore the rich losing control. They won't let that happen even if it ends this country.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives