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[–] Tattorack 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So... I guess we're just forgetting about King Mansa Musa, then?

Or medieval trade entirely?

[–] finitebanjo 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't know Capitalism describes a method of production and distribution, he thinks it means western world power currently opposed to eastern world power.

[–] Tattorack 1 points 4 days ago

Seems like there's a lot of that going around here.

[–] SmilingSolaris 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

King mansa musa does not compare even an iota to the transatlantic slave trade. It's not about the fact slavery was happening. It's that capitalism industrialized slave trade to a degree that was unfathomable to humanity before.

[–] Tattorack 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not specific to slavery, but the entire claim of "capitalism started in the UK" and that that's somehow the cause of all the world's problems.

However, the Kingdom of Mali profited greatly from slavery, with the trans-Atlantic slave trade simply being a later chapter in its long history of trading slaves.

As for capitalism; King Mansa Musa went on a pilgrimage to Mecca and deliberately crashed the value of gold in Cairo, the then trade capitol of the world during the middle ages. He did this as a move to bring, and steal, trade interests for Mali.

[–] SmilingSolaris -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

UK conquered effectively the entire world. They are literally the source for global capitalism as it exists. If your hangup is "well, UK didn't really start capitalism" then your on a semantic that makes any further argument with you disingenuous, either due to you willfully manipulating the conversation or ignorantly being unable to comprehend what is being said. Either way really.

[–] Tattorack 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This isn't semantics, it's facts. Strong words coming from you, calling me disingenuous, when what you're doing is defending a grossly oversimplified, inaccurate, and mostly dumb meme.

Open up a history book. Might do you some good.

[–] SmilingSolaris 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Get a history degree. Beat you to it. Teaching your children too.

[–] Tattorack -1 points 4 days ago

Then retake your history degree. Clearly you forgot a few things along the way.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

*looks at bigtech*

Same.