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I think the point is to make communism look viable.
Communism is a stage of civilizational development
Which former civilization reached that stage? I cannot think of a single one. And almost all of the countries that are around now that used to be communist are either no longer communist or communist in name only.
Communism is a stage of civilizational development, no "country" will ever reach it or has reached it. It will be international. It requires a highly advanced and productive industrial socialist economy to be realized.
I remember learning this in school and it was around then that I realized it will never happen.
We will either switch to a socialist mode of production or die
Yeah, probably the latter.
And what anthropological studies are you basic this conclusion on?
If it's a stage of civilizational development, you should be able to find evidence.
Does the fact capitalism didn't exist in certain periods of human history mean it literally could not exist in the future? Communism is a classless, stateless, moneyless society, fufilling the principle, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." The argument is that communism will be achieved through an incredibly productive socialist economy, the problem with capitalism as a productive mode is that its internal contradictions make communism unreachable.
So no studies and no evidence.
Also, you seem to think that the only two options for a civilization are capitalism or communism, which just shows a complete ignorance of history, and possibly economics.
Very kind comment. Definitionally, communism describes a stage of civilizational development, what study do I need to prove that? That's literally what the word means.
Capitalism is a mode of production. The next mode of production after capitalism will be socialism.
Definitionally according to whom? Who defined it? What were their qualifications? Based on what evidence?
I cannot think of a single great civilization from history that reached communism of as a stage of development before the 20th century. Please name one or two. If it is a stage of civilizational development, you should be able to demonstrate that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#History
Again, does the fact there were times in human history before capitalism, with no knowledge or experience of capitalism, somehow make capitalism not a thing? Can something be defined only after it is seen?
The word communism, literally means, a classless, stateless, moneyless society, that fulfills the principle "from each according to their ability to each according to their need". That's what the word means, do you dispute this definition?
So not based on any sort of science or history, or evidence that this has ever happened in all of human history.
This is what is known as "wishful thinking."
The word communism, literally means, a classless, stateless, moneyless society, that fulfills the principle “from each according to their ability to each according to their need”. That’s what the word means, do you dispute this definition?
I dispute that it has ever happened or that there is any evidence that it ever will happen.
Not unless you are talking about tiny bands of hunter-gatherers.
nothing is guaranteed except death
And taxes