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Real communism has never really existed. They’re just authoritarian dictatorships that hoard power and wealth at the top while paying lip service to whatever variant of social policy they offer the masses. The people are never actually given the power over the State or control of production.
What not reading theory does to an mf.
You'd have to let coherent arguments first, not just purely vibes based assertions.
Lol, speaking of stereotypes: self proclamation anarchists acting like literal children.
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Counterpoint: my parents and grandparents lived in the Soviet Union, and I now live in Ukraine, with many of Soviet systems still fresh in memory, if not in place. Priority was not placed in the human service, as much as you want to pretend through rose tinted glasses. The rest of your quote is generalisation of my words that I never said.
Update: oh wait, the fourth point is also blatantly untrue. Soviets literally swallowed a whole host of countries that happened to be occupied by Russian Empire at the time of revolution. Of course they wouldn't need to invade them: the job was already done for them.
How are you gonna blame soviets for the russian empire?!
You changed your comment
Some of us read entire books, you should try it sometime.
I recently just finished this book. I highly recommend it
The USSR was a social democracy, there can be no such thing as a "communist country".
The USSR had a democracy and many democratic elections. It was just not a liberal democracy. The USSR had a welfare state, and so was a social democracy.
Ok, now look at america and think really critically about what you just said.
Sure, there is a red party and a blue party. Sure, they have some differences socially. But economically and foreign policy wise they are the same. Pro capitalist, pro imperialist, pro fascist, pro genocide, pro bombing the shit out of anyone who has natural resources they need for their donors, American business. Or regime changing them.
They’re the same fucking party once you remove the culture war bullshit.
Sorry not obvious. Two parties might be democratic, if party A wants peace and a fair distribution of compensation for work, and part B wants endless war and exploitation of labor.
But since both American parties want the later they’re really just one party in two colors.
Why not? You vote. Parties are just an abstraction.
The more parties it has the more democratic it is? Please. Even in countries with advanced proportional representation schemes, you instead just get huge party alliances based on regionalism, and guess what, they remain capitalist bourgeoisie dictatorships.
The USSR was democratic, it was a capitalist democracy, like well, all modern democracies. Just because it came in a different form doesn't make it somehow not democratic.
Okay, that is actually a valid point. I guess my issue with Soviet elections wasn't the one party system, but how that party was propped up to be the default and most people never bothered to vote against it.
So your issue is not that it wasn't democratic, you just disagree with who they chose to vote for.
Yes, the only truly democratic elections are the ones that get the outcomes western liberals demand of them.
And it never will exist, because politically inert western liberals who have declared themselves the true arbiters of "real communism" will reflexively disqualify anything western propaganda tells them to.
I would like to hear your examples of it existing.
No, I'm agreeing with you, only Western liberals who get their knowledge from Wikipedia are actually communists: the rest are just devious, evil, foreign authoritarians who are merely pretending in other to deceive the true protagonists of history: western liberals.
Lol, you can tell the redditers by the way they all try to talk like smug anime villains.
Lol, oh you're a Russiagater xenophobe as well. Great anarchist you are, fucking dipshit liberal.
Lol, "all dissenters are actually secret agents of the ontologically evil Other country. I'm an anarchist by the way."
Lol, love to see ultranationalist xenophobes who believe dissent means you're from the Bad Country try to pretend to be anarchists.
So that earlier comment about acting like children was a projection, I see
Lol, you really couldn't think of anything except "no u!"?
Remain civil
Alright, my apologies, I was just a bit thrown to find this place completely taken over by anti-communist liberals.
I know it's frustrating as fuck having to fight the systems of oppression and liberals defending it. They always brigade leftist spaces to impose their shitty politics
Report the comments, I'll take care of the rest
It will never exist because there are a huge number of people who want a strongman leader to tell them what to do. That has nothing to do with "inert western liberals," that's been the truth for the entire history of humanity.
Of course, there are no true communists.