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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/lemmyshitpost
 

Cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/34117495

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Me catching up on historical Christian theology on YouTube to help contextualize the spirituality of my youth:

I'm loving this lecturer's depth of knowledge on this subject and he's right that literally every person who knows that religion exists has some kind of theological standpoint whether or not they even believe in a God at all-

-but I completely disagree that the specific question of divinity is worth even asking let alone debating or worst case scenario creating divisions between people over. This isn't even me saying I believe in it or not in fact I specifically refuse to engage with that question in any way.

Debates regarding the divinity of Jesus have been overwhelmingly used throughout history to provide cover for ideologies that both directly contradict the actual words of Jesus and which have caused the suffering and death of millions. "It's fine that we rape children because we believe in the divinity of Jesus!" The nicene creed ruined one of if not the greatest antiestablishment movements in history and was instrumental in its transformation into itself being the abusive establishment.

Now, I do understand that this makes me by default non-nicene, but it's the fact that that binary exists in the first place that I specifically object to. They're the ones making it an issue for no reason other than to have something to hold over other people's heads that requires no actual thought or effort. They don't have to actually debate theology, they've ended the discussion there by choosing a fundamentally unprovable premise to hinge their entire argument on. They've absolved themselves of expending any effort to better the world because by saying one passage out loud their labor is complete.

The nicene creed exists for no other reason than to wage ideological and literal wars over so that real good can be ignored or even fought against. It does not improve the world in any way. The nicene creed ruined Christianity.

Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.

[–] regdog 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You sound like you need Satan in your life.

The satanic temple recognizes that religion has a huge sphere of influence over humanity, and this sphere should not be conceded to theist religions alone. The satanic temple serves as a counter balance to theist religions, and their influence in the world.

PS: Here is a joke:

Question: What to do call people who believe that Satan exists?

Answer:Christians

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Nah diehard atheism isn't really my jam. I'm leaning more towards gnosticism / esotericism. I'm actually fine with the whole Jesus thing I just wanna skip the misogyny and do more chasing capitalists out of churches with whips while getting drunk with hookers. Also I'm actually kinda vibing with the aesthetic of the weird pseudoscientific spiritual shit because I like my placebos to have pretty rocks and starry shit and as an added side bonus it makes mansplainers really irrationally angry and that's just funny asf. Also technically Christians and Satanists both believe in satanism the same way if you follow the original vein of satan just being the absence of god its just satanists think that's a good thing and / or the truer nature of the world which is valid they're just really edgy / pretentious about it and I'm not ready to buy a trilby just yet. I do admire their work in regards to abortion and reclaiming public and civic spaces from religious oppression. I guess that's the issue though; Satanism is a political stance, I'm more looking for a spiritual philosophy and religious rituals that connect me to a wider community and provide patterns for my mind and body to latch onto for stability and comfort. Satanism doesn't provide any of that which again, is fine, but not what I'm looking for.

[–] regdog 1 points 5 days ago

Whatever works for you. I hope you find a religion that fits you (and does not hurt other people in the process)

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