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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Here in Germany we are extensively educated about what happened in the 3rd Reich. It’s a big part about our education to learn and understand what horrible things happened and why they happened to make sure this never happens again. This kinda lead to the point where many Germans are deeply ashamed just for being a German (even though they’re quite far detached from what happened) and this is also a reason why you won’t find many German flags hanging here.

Yeah, we didn't do that. At the end of the civil war, Lincoln was assassinated, and Johnson just kind of said "yeah we good now" and good portions of the US still hold Confederate views.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@catloaf @open_mind To follow up on this, after the war there was a long and very successful propaganda campaign to whitewash the legacy of American slavery and its importance in the US civil war.[1] To this day, the Confederacy is heavily mythologized and their generals and leaders are lionized as brave and noble rather than what they were: defenders of brutal industrial slavery. You wouldn't think a country would have statues of 150-year-old failed traitors outside state buildings, but we do. (They're starting to come down but it has taken a literal century.)[2] There are many, many people from the south who will insist that the civil war was about the vague notion of "states' rights" without being specific about what specific rights they wanted,[3] and that's because this propaganda was embedded in the education system of half the country.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy
[2] https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035004639/virginia-ready-to-remove-massive-robert-e-lee-statue-following-a-year-of-lawsuit
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZB2ftCl2Vk

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[–] Balthazar 13 points 2 months ago

And to this day the Confederate flag is viewed by many as acceptable ("it's part of our culture"). Can you imagine flying a Nazi flag in modern Germany?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Hijacking your comment to add that a tom of Americans are ashamed to be American. That just happens to correlate with higher educated Americans. And there is currently a leading political party that celebrates the confederacy and is actively attempted to keep Americans from getting educated.

Nationilsm breeds effectient workers, and education hinders Nationalism.