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A New York man, Chen Jinping, pleaded guilty to operating an undeclared Chinese police station in Manhattan for China’s Ministry of Public Security.

The station, part of a transnational repression scheme, aided Beijing in locating and suppressing pro-democracy activists in the U.S., violating American sovereignty.

Authorities say the station also served routine functions like renewing Chinese driving licenses but had a more sinister role, including tracking a California-based activist.

Chen faces up to five years in prison, while a co-defendant has pleaded not guilty and awaits trial.

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[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

But it's the "with intention to cause you damages" bit that makes it illegal (I believe).

Saying you saw so-and-so down at the shops is obviously not illegal. Saying that to their ex-partner so they go and beat them up is. (Even then a prosecutor would have to prove you incited or intend harm to come, just the sharing of info itself isn't a crime per se)

That's what I wasn't understanding from the article. Are there very specific limits on first amendment so that what would ordinarily be communication of public information becomes illegal just because the recipient is a foreign government. Or was it illegal because the public information was shared with the known intent of causing physical harm.

The article sounded like the former, which surprised me. I think the latter is probably the actual circumstances though I could be wrong.

[–] ogeist 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Well you are talking about 2 different things.

Stalking: just following a person for your own personal benefit.

And Spying/Surveillance: following someone to share the information with another entity or government.

The person in question had several logs and such logs were communicated to the chinese government, they have proof of this, so such actions are criminal offenses.