Yes, you are taught how to clear corners. The problem is, in a home with tight hallways that's hard to prevent while staying keeping an alert stance, without having another person to cover you. But hell, if you got a husband and wife team sweeping that would be bad ass.

And you're correct, birdshot will most likely go into the next room. But it won't go through multiple rooms and possibly into a close neighbor.

Agreed that's pistols take much more skill, but I stand by them as the best home defense weapon if you're able to train. A revolver specifically.

Anddddd you sold me on the claymore.

[–] SupraMario -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

https://youtu.be/H6clay9pFaw?feature=shared

No that shit is going through multiple walls. Handguns will go probably through more.

If you want something not going through the walls, scream and yell....

https://youtu.be/j3BlRPtCj2E?feature=shared

Even better video, walls are doubled up and has distance. You're shit is going through all kinds of walls.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 4 hours ago

For anyone showing up later without gun knowledge to see why the first test is fatally flawed... Bird shot loses its penetrative properties as it spreads. This has to do with multiple rounds impacting an area of material. Seeing this replicated in the second video would have been very helpful but the content creators dismiss it because it's pretty well known birdshot isn't going through walls the same way and they wanted a funny video. (At one point they fire an M1 Garand at their walls)

What a lot of people miss about self defense is that you should also be into reloading. (It makes practice so much cheaper too) If you can reload your own rounds you can find the lowest load of powder that will cycle the bolt on your weapon. Less powder equals less penetration, but seeing as a 22 LR is lethal at home defense ranges (that comically tiny bullet that kids shoot) it will work. And you've got to practice anyways.

[–] Lightor 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A 9 mil will go though more walls than a slug? I disagree with that.

[–] SupraMario 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Watch the damn videos....no where did I say a 9mm will go through more walls than a slug... I stated that birdshot at 10 feet is basically a slug. It has not even left it's sabot at that distance.

[–] Lightor 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

no where did I say a 9mm will go through more walls than a slug

Then I must have misunderstood this.

No that shit is going through multiple walls. Handguns will go probably through more.

I did watch the video. And no, it's not basically a slug. That's such a silly thing to say. A slug and birdshot behave very differently and would cause very different kinds of damage. Also a slug is going to go through a person at close range, birdshot won't. That word "basically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Also at 10 feet most birdshot will have a 2 inch spread. A slug isn't having a 2 inch spread, because yes, it does have time to disburse within 10 feet.