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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 35 points 10 hours ago (11 children)

He said an AR-15 had too much recoil? Is he made of tissue paper, or did they mod it to fire artillery shells? Christ, one of the demos they did for us at our first live fire in basic training was having one of our fellow soldiers hold an M-16 stock UP TO HIS NUTS and fire it downrange to show just how little recoil they had. I'm not kidding, I personally witnessed this. I have also put at least 20,000 rounds through M-16's and AR-15's in my life. They don't kick. Seagal is a pussy.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)

It's why they're in common use and one of the best things for home defense. Basically anyone can handle one

Edit: ITT... people who think a shotgun with birdshot isn't going through walls and is easier to use than a AR. In close distances, birdshot is a slug and will %100 go through walls.

[–] Odelay42 18 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I wouldn't use an AR for home defense because I'm not interested in shooting through 4 walls and killing my neighbors kid by accident.

I believe bird shot is enough of a deterrent for home defense and requires significantly less precision in a tense situation.

[–] SupraMario -2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't use an AR for home defense because I'm not interested in shooting through 4 walls and killing my neighbors kid by accident.

Have you ever shot a gun before? Drywall isn't stopping shit. Handgun rounds go through walls easily.

I believe bird shot is enough of a deterrent for home defense and requires significantly less precision in a tense situation.

You shot to kill not wound, and a shotgun isn't easier to use than an AR, on top of that birdshot is not fanning out at 10' in your home... it's basically a slug at that distance and will %100 go through drywall.

You've been reading some really FUDD shit if you believe anything you typed up.

Edit: lol at people upvoting that complete nonsense comment to this one. Please for the love of Cthulhu people don't buy a shotgun and leave it in your home for home defense and do not load it with fucking birdshot...get a handgun if you're afraid of an AR.

[–] Lightor 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

So you understand how birdshot is different than a FMJ? A pellet isn't going through 3 walls, a FMJ is. There is massively more penetration and lethality after penetration. Have you ever shot a gun?

And yes a shotgun is much easier to use, are you crazy? You need much much much less accuracy. You literally can just aim down a hallway and get great coverage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

it’s basically a slug at that distance and will %100 go through drywall.

Hey it's gotta go through some fiberglass, glued-together wood chips, and plastic siding too. They just need a few layers of wet tissue paper on there as well and they'll be golden.

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