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[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about in Japan, but in the US, Nissan has a sub-$30k EV with the Leaf and Honda does not. So that would be worth something to them considering California is trying to phase out ICE cars.

https://insideevs.com/news/744407/ev-california-gas-car-sales-ban-2035/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

That's still only a single model that is <8% of Nissan's already abysmal US sales volume. Nissan's massive pile of garbage that fills up the rest of portfolio (and institutional problems behind the scenes) is absolutely NOT worth dealing with for the technology in a single model like that, even if it is "necessary" to offer to ensure compliance eith wishy washy regulatory soon-to-be's. They would be much better off clean-slating their own, EV tech is significantly easier to develop compared to new ICE designs and if anyone is capable of that, it's Honda.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's a single model and virtually the only model of EV less affluent Americans can afford. That's a huge market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Except the chevy volt is in the same sub 30k category and they handily beat the pants off of the leaf in range. The leaf only gets a meager 149 miles per charge. The volt can go about 100 miles further and has the ability to charge faster.

[–] JJROKCZ 1 points 1 hour ago

? I own a leaf and get 215 miles per charge... Plus for most peoples the 149 on the base model is fine to go to work and back daily

2020 leaf sv plus owner here. Range is 212 officially but when my car is full charge it tells me 215 iirc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It is a big, untapped market but it's not a big market for the Leaf. Tesla sold 3x more Model 3 in the last year alone than Nissan has sold in the entire 14 year production run of the Leaf. It's a hot mess.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 hours ago

The Model 3 is over $40,000. It's selling more because Americans are barely even aware cheaper EVs exist.