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Yep it's basic Hanlon's razor. But plenty won't care to engage their brains. It's just another reason for them to crucify him.
Which is like if you guys are this upset about what Biden did. You do realize that the person coming into office after him literally sold pardons for money. To some of the worst people you'll ever know. Oh? Not a peep?
What Trump does doesn't justify or defend Mistakes by Biden. But it really is telling that Biden is disproportionately getting raked over the coals.
Eldritch, always here with the nonsense distraction attempt for Biden and/or genocide and low standards for dem leaders. "Sure I killed 3 kids your honor, but what about that other guy? He killed 4! so why am I even here in court?"
So eldritch, once again, we dont judge ourselves as doing fine if we stay slightly above the worst level of what some other side is doing. Thats not how any of this works. Its not how life works. Your point is nonsensical. It amounts to a self defense of meaningless and braindead centrism, doesnt it.
I literally said it's not a defense of him. Just pointed out that it's odd that so many are so seemingly upset. At what specifically a lame duck outgoing president did. By mass pardoning a group of people. Which included someone it shouldn't have. Likely not by Biden's inclusion. And you felt so personally called out by it. That you did nothing but project and put words I never said into my mouth. Funny that. Some advice for the future comrade. You'll have much more fruitful discussions if you engage with what people actually say. Instead of trying to make up things to get offended at. That's ultimately my point and you proved it. Thank you very much friend.
You're like this in all of your many many comments.
You backpedal with a "I just X". or trying to pretend everyone misunderstood what you obviously said.
You ALWAYS run interference for Biden and genocide with the same tired "But Trump is worse" and "Biden probably didnt do X on purpose" drivel. Its always the main point of your comment: "what about Trump."
You throw in a tired ad-hom, like this time calling me "comrade". or sometimes its "kiddo" or "uninformed" or "uneducated".
And you clutch your pearls and claim its personal.
*le sigh.
There a significant difference between having a perspective on the bigger picture versus "defending" one aspect of it. The person you're attacking stated they weren't defending Biden because it's obviously wrong, but they were pointing out that in the larger scheme of things it's comparatively SOP or even small peanuts compared to other similar wrongs committed by other people in the same position.
I'm quite disgusted with the Biden administration's handling of Netanyahu myself, but that doesn't mean the answer is to replace it with someone with an even worse human rights track record.
Why do you bring up replacement in this conversation? pushing for better leadership within the party doesnt equate to boosting Trump. We're supposed to have our own standards, not only exist as some foil to the far right. Thats exactly how we all lost in the last election.
Because the community is called "Politics," not "The Democratic Party." We can talk about both here.
Lots of people prefer to speak of Biden only in the context of comparing him to trump. strange, eh. He cant stand on his own two feet, he needs that Trump comparison, or who is he? Shall we look at his actions without that crutch of comparing him to Trump? no?
So sure, we can talk about both here, because otherwise the centrists would have nothing at all to say.
They compare them because they are the most recent presidents. I've also seen Biden compared to Obama and DUHbya, but you don't see those because that's not what you're looking for to propagate your preferred narrowly-focused narrative.
Grow up, get some perspective, and get over your high-n-mighty self.
I'm done with you. Goodnight.
nonsense. You compare them because centrists tried running as slightly better than the far right, and calling that good. Well its not good, and when you keep brining it up it looks like you want to keep going along with the same mistakes that brought us to this epic loss. We're not going to get out of this by making the same exact play with the same exact lack of ideology as always.
And you tell me to grow up? You replied to me, right? Take some responsibilities for your own actions, centrist. And if not operating in a philosophical world where everything is relative to fascism counts as "high and mighty" to you, then thats not great.
It's not too much to ask that the POTUS considers the details of actions they take before taking them. Hell, this is one of the many criticisms people correctly make of Trump. It's also not too much to expect other politicians take their jobs more seriously than Trump does, or for other politicians to be better than Trump in general (especially when that is literally all that they promise us).
No, its not. But that was never my supposition. All I was asking. Was for people who were breathlessly repeatedly posting and complaining about such actions from Biden take equal and appropriate responses towards his opponents. Is that too much to ask? Apparently yes. Yes it is.
Is it too much to ask people to consider the likely knock on effects other actions? Absolutely going by popular sentiments around here lol. Is it too much to ask for Democratic party to actually really look at what happened and reevaluate things? Indubitably. Is it too much to ask those e nomine on the left to do similar? You better believe it.
I'm not asking anyone to not criticize Biden. I'm just wondering where all this enthusiasm and energy was when it came to trying to make sure the other bad guy didn't get elected.
Probably because around 99% of the people using Lemmy already know that Trump is worse, so complaining about it feels irrelevant and like a waste of time. What does it accomplish when everyone already agrees?
When people here complain about the amount of Biden-bashing from leftists, now that actually accomplishes something. What that does is give people who are debating between voting blue, voting third party, or not voting at all (and there are a lot of those people around here) the impression that dedicated Democrat voters don't care what Democrats do as long as Trump does something worse. This promotes the idea that "both sides are the same" and discourages people from voting blue.
All it tells you is we expect Trump to be shit, and know he doesn't care if we call him out on it
Sooooo tired of people pretending that isn't obvious
Why does it matter if he cares or not? Because I have a news flash for you. Biden doesn't care either. So why are you making an exception to your own rule?
Plenty of career criminals know that committing crimes could send them to prison. But they don't care. Why do we send them to prison? There's a whole bunch of irrational inconsistencies your stance opens up.
But honestly the most personally damning one with regards to people like yourself. Is you were so adamant at calling out Biden. Without a peep as to Trump etc. Plenty of uninformed uneducated people saw it. And then saw him as the better option.
No shit? Not a news flash for me, bud. The rest of the Democrats absolutely do care, unlike the Republicans and trump
I'm not, as stated: we already know he's garbage. I know I gave 2 whole reasons and it's hard to keep that many thoughts in your head but I believe in you
Lol, if you ignore half of what I said, absolutely!
Lol, I absolutely peeped about Trump, dipshit, don't assume shit or you'll look even stupider
Blame the idiots who voted for him and the millions of people who chose not to vote against him this time around, not the people posting on Lemmy to people who already know how bad Trump is
Whoa whoa whoa come back here with those goal posts friend. You'll hurt yourself running that fast. I hate to point it out to you. Okay maybe that's an exaggeration. That ghoul Liz Cheney carried enough to campaign for the opposition. And if a republican that objectively horrible cared. I assure you plenty of other Republicans cared too. Yes some of them had ulterior motives. Though I can at least say this for them. Their motives are much more consistent and clear than yours.
Love you too kiddo. Love you too. Just got enough to continue taking your bait. Good day.
Nothing was moved, for fucks sake you can't actually be that stupid.
Probably because you keep failing to read what was said and making (bad) assumptions about me. Which is a you problem
If you're too stupid to get why people who are acutely aware of how shit the next guy will be criticize the current guy and not him, that's on you
golf clap
the only stuff worth reading out of all that back and forth with this guy were your responses back at him.
He's the bane of lemmy's existsence and I dont understand why I have never blocked him yet. Let me take care of that right now.
"Blocked Eldritch"
ahhhhhhhhhhh. yeah.