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President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.

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[–] baronvonj 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck is wrong with timezones?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Id prefer this to but many are against it. To me a number is a number, if I say it's 8 o'clock then it should be 8 o'clock. Not 8am eastern, 7am central, 5am Pacific.. (yes we always ignore mountain time).

If I drive 15 mins east the clocks shouldn't jump. States like Florida have 2 time zones within them.

What time is the meeting at? 12, fucking 12, I don't care if you are working from Japan today, it's at 12.

Now for the fun part. It's 13, not 1 again. What time is mass at? 12. I don't want to specify it is midnight mass 12, it's fucking 12, 1 of them.

Then there are no mistakes to be made.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

That’s nice for people with low UTC offsets, but will be incredibly confusing for most of the Earth’s population who are closer to the date line. Imagine it being Tuesday in the morning and Wednesday in the afternoon!

Now, 24h time I’m 100% in favor of. AM/PM can fuck right off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I have to cross the timezone in Florida often for work, and it gets hella confusing when I need to tell Medicaid I saw one client 11-12 in the eastern time zone, and another at 11:15-12:15 in the central time zone, and my EMR system automatically uses my device's time zone, but I'm completing both billing notes in the time zone I don't live in

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

What times the game on? Depends on the who's house we are watching it at. Lol

[–] baronvonj 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But the time indicates your relative position in the Earth's rotation. The number 13 in reference to the rotational cycle means the sun in the sky is a particular number of degrees away from your position on the earth and it only that particular value in that one geographic slice of the planet. You can personally choose to use UTC/GMT for yourself if that's what you want to do, and meeting invites you send and receive will all correct accordingly for the configured time zone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That holds true outside of the fact that it changes daily due to our axis orbit and our position on earth. If we actually went by it, our clocks would have to change constantly as well. So if we are going to ignore it by not changing the clocks, why wouldn't we just ignore it all together. We are okay with saying the sun sets at 4:30... Or 7:30... Or maybe it only sets for 2 hours a night if you are north/south enough... So why bother trying to coorelate that?

[–] baronvonj 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Time zones weren't established to adjust for north/south variances, they're for east/west. And we don't adjust the clocks to make sunrise and sunset fall on consistent time of day throughout the year. They're so that we can reliably account for what the local time is somewhere other than where we are (in the USA they were created for cross-continental railroads to publish train schedules). We already have GMT/UTC and every other time zone is defined relative to that, so why don't you just personally use that in all your own devices and communications already? Nothing but you can prevent you from doing so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your last comment said it does adjust for the sun, now this one says it doesn't.

Your argument is "But I don't like change, so I don't want to change to having no changes"

Why don't I just use a system the rest of U.S. doesn't use? Because when I turn on the TV, pick up a paper, or sit down at computer, it will always be different.

What kind of thought process is that. Instead we'll drive south-east and wind up with the time going backwards, north-west and the time going forward and everyone will wonder what braindead fool couldn't draw a vertical line. And then remember, it's because a lot of people thought it was a terrible idea from the start, so many states/countries bent those lines.

Id call it a sunk cost.

[–] baronvonj 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, my argument is that time zones are a formalization of what we observe in physical reality: that different parts of the planet are experience a different phase of the Earth's rotation through direct sunlight in at any given moment. They can't ever be perfect, so we all have to agree to a best approximation, and some communities decide for themselves that they don't want to have a a dividing line through the middle of their city, and that's fine because the whole system is meant for co-ordinating over long distances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Which brings us back to the premise, they are just numbers. So what does it matter that the sun comes up at one number or another when they are already dynamic. And co-ordination over long distances would be perfect every time with a static time for the entire planet. As time is relative to us, why not make it static.

Hell we all just made up that it's 2024. So every time the clock spins round we adjust until we hit 2025, but time didn't start 2024 year ago, we just set it at a static point so there was no confusion. Imagine if you drove to work and it was 1994 there, and then 2027 when you flew home to see your parents. It would be nuts.

[–] baronvonj 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As time is relative to us, why not make it static.

Because we already have, when the time zones were created. All time zones are just offsets to UTC/GMT. And as you've observed, society at large wants to use a localized offset because it just feels natural to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Greenwich, now you go and bring ole Henry VIII into this... Surely that'll help. Haha. Hope your having a good day

[–] baronvonj 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Greenwich, now you go and bring ole Henry VIII into this... Surely that'll help

Well if we're all going to be in one time zone, then one has to be designated as the True Earth Time, and the world's governments.have already decided which one it is.

Haha. Hope your having a good day

Likewise. 🍻

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Draft beer, can't say I've had that in a while. You know your in a smaller town when everything only comes in cans and bottles. Then since both glass and aluminum are to of the easiest materials to recycle and reuse indefinitely, we do the most American things possible, throw them all I the trash with no thoughts on why we didn't just buy a recycling bin, as all they sell is recyclables. Guess we have to worry about those napkins getting in there lol