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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel ashamed that the right wing government of the Netherlands was discussing to declare Syria a safe country not one month ago. This would prevent Syrian people to get asylum here in NL.

Look at the devastating proof.

[–] rottingleaf -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I would expect Syrian prisons to be just like that, mind that there are a lot of fakes now. Yes, many good people are being freed. But also many ISIS fighters are being freed, many common criminals are being freed, and many good people are likely being murdered for their faith not being Sunni Islam.

See, those organizations that have taken power are jihadis. The northern ones are Turkey's puppets, the central ones are ex-ISIS supported by Qatar (and declaring all sorts of nice things with a charismatic leader, but I think we'll learn of a lot of gruesome shit after the shroud of enthusiasm falls), and the sourthern ones are kinda bland, but seem to have some silent agreement with Israel.

The SDF/YPG, aka Syrian Democratic Forces, aka Rojava, are Kurdish-led and Communist. They were the most Western-supported and the most democratic force there (which is interesting with the way they cosplay Stalin's USSR, but this is factual), but they were friendly with the Syrian regime, sort of allies with it against jihadis and Turkey. They control the eastern parts, on border with Iraq and with most of Syria's oil.

SDF is now being brutalized by Turkey again, and apparently those "revolutionaries" to the west are not going to negotiate with SDF. They are declaring they won't hit Israel back (Israel is now occupying everything Druze-inhabited in Syria's south, the Druze have a particular kind of Islam which they often don't consider Islam at all, so it's sort of an attempt at geopolitical engineering), and they are not saying anything rude to Turkey, but they haven't said anything that can be interpreted as recognizing SDF's right to exist. I may be wrong, of course.

The point of this long text was - the revolutionaries are all controlled by some power in the general, geopolitically predatory understanding of the West. Which means that you'll see a lot of things like Powell's "chemical weapons sample".

This is not a case of "good defeating evil", this is a case of "green defeating violet".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This answers a question I did not ask. I never even suggested HTS to be a force of good.

But thanks for your contribution 😉

[–] rottingleaf 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I overthought your comment as something saying that Assad's regime was bad, bad, but now it can be declared a safe country. Probably from some other news about that being done by some European country? I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not with HTS (they have connections to IS), my comments was more along the line of "why did we think this was a safe country even before we knew HTS would take over".

[–] rottingleaf 1 points 1 month ago

That's easy to answer. It's a long-standing colonial tradition to treat countries which abuse their own citizens, but not westerners, as safe. Doesn't matter for which purpose.

Those nostalgic over Victorian era should pay attention to what's really happening around us and see that we are there again. Even today's cultural wars are quite similar to Victorian moralism. Except, I guess, our time is not as stylish.