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[–] Benjaben 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a really interesting perspective. Was that material you sought for personal reasons or a required part of your education? Any specialization involved, if the latter? (I'm pretty ignorant about y'all's schooling)

[–] JustZ 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good question. I've wondered how people could go to the same schools as I, sit through the same classes, and have wildly different political views. But it's that they come into it with a different lens.

Example, There's a Supreme Court case about a woman who was charged with obscenity for possession of porn. It didn't belong to her. It was her boyfriends, maybe husband. Police came in with a warrant for his arrest, but he wasn't there, and they wanted to squeeze her for information on his whereabouts, so they charged her with possession of porn he had squirreled away in the basement.

You're could read that and be like "good, the police had a warrant and she should have cooperated, she had her turn in court and was convicted of possessing it, and we might disagree now but that was just the law of the day."

Other students who were less ignorant, more fun to be around, and usually much better students and people read that and be like "could you believe these obvious racists jammed up this innocent woman over a porn mag just to serve a warrant?"

Speaking for myself, I could see that they were out there right now pulling the same type of shit and I thought now they're going to have to go through me, once I get my card, let's fight about it.

Then you start practicing and the lines start to blur a bit, things become grey, and you start to drink your own Kool Aid, whatever that may be. If you go defend corporations, you're going to start thinking maybe they should have more rights, maybe they aren't getting a fair shake by all these whiny plaintiffs and their surviving family members. You go prosecute criminals, you'll think there is danger everywhere, suspicious of everyone.

I found a happy mix of picking and choosing cases of all kinds, now, but spent my formative years representing employees who got hurt at work. My Kool Aid was like "employees are being fucking by corporations, watch them or they'll fuck you too, and insurance companies are evil, life sucking leaches." So, my Kool Aid has no artificial flavor, right?

I did do a lot of extra reading as I was eic of the law review and a top student, able to remember obscure footnotes in great detail; reading stories and then drawing on them to remember rules and policy reasoning is very natural for my memory. Worked out well.

[–] melisdrawing 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have this eerie feeling that any large amount of legal documents is going to contain mostly stories of those with means fucking the rest of us.

[–] Benjaben 2 points 1 month ago

Me too, actually. Would be some (maybe a lot) work to get set up, but it'd be interesting to run ~all of it through some classifier / analytical models and find out.