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Microsoft Reverses "Non-Negotiable" TPM 2.0 Requirement for Windows 11 as Windows 10 Faces Phase-Out - Techopse - Trading Enthusiasm for Anger (www.techopse.com)

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[–] AceBonobo 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think this is the source for the article

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-on-devices-that-don-t-meet-minimum-system-requirements-0b2dc4a2-5933-4ad4-9c09-ef0a331518f1

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

That page does not mention tpm, and on the requirenments page TPM 2.0 is still listed:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11-specifications

EDIT: OK I see it now, it says that the requirenments are still in place, but that they are not enforced. But it also notes that future updates may not be available to computers that does not fullfill the requirenments

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think it's just scare tactics to get people to buy a new computer. I really doubt that Microsoft will withhold updates because it will cause huge security problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

It's more about manufacturers, they want all new laptops to have a tpm, if those mobo/laptop manufacturers want the shiny "compatible with win11" stickers they have to add a tpm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

They're not withholding, this is a normal lifecycle for their OS'es (technically this one is already an extended deadline due to covid). The fact that Win10 had a 10 year life is the first time they have done so (LTS builds not withstanding). The amount of vulnerabilities and patching necessary to keep that husk going isn't worth the squeeze to them.

Even Linux builds are lucky to reach 10 years of support on a given kernel.

Mint Life Cycle

Ubuntu Life Cycle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A non enforced requirement sounds like it is not a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see it more like that Microsoft are saying something like "Fine, you can install Windows 11 without meeting the official minimum requirenments, but we can't promise that future patches won't break your system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I mean if I was a shitty corporation that wanted to onboard new clients I would do a sweet bait and switch later once they are dependant on the new system... And I don't just mean Microsoft, it is common now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I guess it's fine. I was concerned because of the processor requirements, but the real quality bottleneck was spinning drives.