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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but then the question is, how did it become something everybody at the pub knows to be true?

Because all the way Boris and the rest were saying that, others were saying it wasn't true.

So what are the mechanisms to amplify the lie and block the more accurate narrative? How much of it is confirmation bias from a group of people who want to believe their chosen bugbear is behind everything wrong with their lives and how much of it is some fundamental difference in how each of the messages were treated at key points?

It's a nuanced conversation, but as we speak the same process is radicalizing the youth worldwide towards fascist ideas. We saw it in the US, it's going on all over Europe. Democracy hangs on the answer to that question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It's a very good question to which I don't know the answer!

The lying version spread very well by word of mouth, and a constant bombardment of old/new/social media. People didn't seem to care beyond "vote Brexit get our jobs back". The factual version was easily dismissed as "elite media propaganda" - when the exact opposite would be likely nearer the truth.

There's other questions wrapped up in the same set of things - how is multimillionaire investment banker and former career Tory politician Nigel Farage able to present himself as "normal bloke", "man of the people", "underdog", "not one of those elites"?