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Donald Trump has reportedly invited Chinese President Xi Jinping to his January 20 presidential inauguration, though Xi's response is unclear.

Trump’s transition team has also considered inviting other world leaders, including Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.

Known for his tough stance on China, Trump has named prominent China hawks like Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz to key positions.

Trump plans to reintroduce tariffs on Chinese imports and restrict Chinese ownership of U.S. assets.

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[–] FlyingSquid 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Every time someone has suggested Trump would start WWIII, I have said the same thing- Trump will not start WWIII, Trump will start 1984.

You don't need an world war once you've created Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You don't need a world war once you've created Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

Did you not read 1984?

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 5 days ago

I did indeed. There was no world war. It was manufactured. That's the whole point. That's why sides kept changing and people pretended they never changed. Did you really not understand that it was all for show and they actually just let their proxies in Africa fight it out? The book didn't really keep that a secret.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Those 3 are constantly "warring" with one another

[–] enbyecho 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because why have a costly world war when you don't need to? Just let the three big ones do whatever they want, maybe fight a proxy war or two in the third world and you've got Orwell's 1984.

[–] enbyecho 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, you clearly are aware of which party just got elected to the presidency....

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes I am. What is your point?

[–] enbyecho 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Dude... starting a costly war when you don't need to and then blaming the Democrats when they clean up the mess is what Republicans do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How many wars started during Trump’s last Presidency?

[–] enbyecho 2 points 5 days ago

How many wars started during Trump’s last Presidency?

You will need to specify what precisely you mean when you say "war". As you may be aware, Vietnam was at the time not called a "war" but a police action. Same with Korea. So when Trump did things like bomb the shit out of various places, those were not "wars" but "hurburudsusuerrrdur" or similar hand-waving.

Here's a rundown: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/reckless-endangerment-president-trump-use-military-force/

"During his first 100 days in office, it has become clear that President Donald Trump views military force as his primary—if not only—foreign policy tool. From a botched special operations raid in Yemen to a cruise missile strike against an Assad-regime airfield in Syria, Trump has proven more than willing to order America’s armed forces into action. Moreover, his administration’s proposed “hard-power budget” cuts U.S. State Department funding by more than one-quarter to help pay for a $54 billion increase in military spending."

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. Back when Republicans needed people to vote for them.

You don't really think there will be an election that isn't done the way it's done in Russia any more, do you?

Seriously, read 1984 and then criticize what I'm talking about. They continued calling it 'the party' for a reason in that novel as well.

[–] enbyecho 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Broadly speaking, I agree with you. You make a valid point.

But... I just am cynical enough to believe that Trump will in fact start wars in order to cling to power and their cost has nothing to do with it - my only real point here is that that's not a concern for Republicans, generally. It's worth noting that that is a key pillar in Putin's domestic strategy. It's how authoritarians operate. Even Bush started his wars mainly to boost domestic support and appeal to the instincts for "revenge" people had after 9/11. They weren't wars that made any kind of sense, financially or otherwise. Not that they ever do.

Seriously, read 1984 and then criticize what I’m talking about.

Why would you assume I haven't read it? But it's a work of fiction and warning, not a prediction.

[–] Madison420 -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia are all legitimate geographic areas currently.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420 -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's 100% relevant, the author uses legitimate locations which home specific political views that are also reflected in the book.

If you had said created the political entities of [...] you'd be right though I suspect like many you thought East Asia was made up for the book. It isn't.

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Captain Literal! Thank goodness you were here to save the day!

[–] Madison420 -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Language matters General Vagueness.

[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And yet no one else seemed to be confused that when I was talking about 1984, I was talking about the nations in the context of that novel. You know what context is, yes?