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All I've been able to find are cherry picked words and sentences the police tell the press in both's attempts to spin it for their narratives.

Is it foolish to hope the public will get to read it in its relative entirety (a word or a name redacted is understandable, not entire paragraphs) in less than years or decades?

Legal process is a blindspot for me, I don't know what they're able to have as evidence that they can also keep from the public eye if they wish.

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[–] SelfProgrammed 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I saw this earlier, and some comments were saying that it's fake. The reasons stated were

  • it doesn't match the other snippets that were released (but those other snippets may not be real either, or this might be a separate document from the one at the arrest)

  • it doesn't match his writing style (which might be reasonable given that it was hand written)

Regardless, it might be better to wait for more confirmation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'm split on if it's real or not. Like the released quotes don't match at all, but it could also be that the handwritten one was a draft he cut down before posting.

The roadtrip from presumably Maryland to California to visit the Monterey Bay Aquarium is also kinda weird, like it feels unlikely that someone who is experiencing back pain that bad would take a road trip that long, even with medicine. Even driving for a few hours straight as someone with a good back who is still young can make my back hurt, so I imagine that someone who was waking up screaming every night because of the pain wouldn't be in a great position to drive cross country, no matter what medicine they were talking.

The fact it was posted the day of the arrest is also at least suspicious, like he could have had the paper copy on him because he posted it earlier before being arrested/spotted, but idk.

I kinda go back and forth on how much I believe it, so I'm definitely not saying it's conclusively fake or anything. I do think waiting for confirmation is probably a good idea like you say though, but regardless of the veracity it's definitely a heartbreaking piece of writing. So many of the stories people have shared, both in the wake of this and before, are so similar. I definitely believe this could be true.

[–] Allonzee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Much obliged, and thank you!

Edit-I agree with his overarching point:

An active War is being waged upon the non-wealthy masses by the owners, a war sanctioned by our own government that will not intervene, whether the non-wealthy masses peacefully line up as is expected of them to get executed like good lil boys and girls in the name of private profit or not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This one is fake. The (supposedly) real one has now been published by Ken Klippenstein, and is linked in another comment on this thread.

[–] SelfProgrammed 18 points 1 week ago

I see. In case anybody else stumbles across this:

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

This was confirmed fake by NYT

[–] beansbeansbeans 10 points 1 week ago

Real or not, many likely echo a similar sentiment of frustration. Much to think about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

If this is real I have a lot of sympathy for this guy. There's no way he will be getting the medical attention his chronic pain deserves.

[–] pushECX 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some say this one is fake. I'm not convinced either way. While this may not have been the "manifesto" that was found on him when he was caught, why couldn't this have been written prior to the act and the one he was caught with written after?