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So there's a ton of countries that I've heard have had truly unaffordable housing for decades, like:

  • The UK
  • Ireland
  • The Netherlands

And I've heard of a ton of countries where the cost of houses was until recently quite affordable where it's also started getting worse:

  • Germany
  • Poland
  • Czechia
  • Hungary
  • The US
  • Australia
  • Canada
  • And I'm sure plenty others
  1. It seems to be a pan-Western bloc thing. Is the cause in all these countries the same?
  2. We've heard of success stories in cities like Vienna where much of the housing stock is municipally owned – but those cities have had it that way for decades. Would their system alleviate the current crisis if established in the aforementioned countries?
  3. What specific policies should I be demanding of our politicians to make housing affordable again? Is there any silver bullet? Has any country demonstrably managed to reverse this crisis yet?
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is both false and true. Japan has a few things happening that are keeping rates lower, but the primary thing keeping costs low in Japan is the fact that the units are tiny. I'm not talking a little on the small side, I'm talking 200 square feet or less per person in a family home. No yards either.

If you compare Japan to the dwelling sizes of other nations, it's just as bad or worse per square foot.

The end goal for solving housing should not be to make the rooms as small as possible. Especially in countries where land space isn't the limiting factor.

[–] ch00f 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean there are a ton of efficiencies to be gained with using communal resources.

Why can’t a bunch of people share a park rather than needing their own back yard?

Not saying it shouldn’t be an option, but the American obsession with detached housing at the cost of higher density housing is a major contributor to insane housing costs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Sure, but apartments at 1000 square feet shouldn't be unaffordable in north American cities, but they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

By making the rooms smaller you're just kicking the can down the road. Eventually the price inflation will catch up and even those shoeboxes will cost a fortune.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The housing I remember in Japan was the coffin box. A little space long enough for you to lie down in, with a small cubby for items. I think it was about 30 sq. ft. and maybe 90 cu. ft.