Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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There must be some mistake . The Left never did this
Socialists never did it. Marxists never did it. Communists never did . Anarchists never did. They are doctrinal ideologues and the doctrine forbids it.
Who did this ? Liberals and Centrists. The Nice Guy brand.
They broke off little bits of cultural equality, for women : “lets close those men only clubs !”
for black people : “why yes, you are worthy of a seat on the bus”
for gay people “yes, you may indeed marry the person you love”
……And all the time they stole your money and kept the boot firmly on the neck of working people for the enrichment of the oligarchy. And everybody clapped, because it was the ruse of the century.
it’s seems the morons of substack are still trying to argue about “the forgotten young white men” but know this :
Socialism has no interest in your gender, colour, or sexuality. “From each according to his ability, to each according to their need” as Marx wrote.
So if you want to peg the politics of identity, pin it on the neo liberals and maybe give yourself a slap on the wrist for buying it .
You're absolutely right. The problem as I see it is rather that the modern Democratic base have largely failed to integrate feminist and worker-oriented messaging targeting men into their campaigning. Maybe more importantly, they have failed to integrate it into their day-to-day conception of liberation.
I came to this thread expected a lot of crying.
Instead I see push back and facts. The rejection of the dumbed down arguments usually provided is a pleasant change.
But, this. This is a perfect response.