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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a typical, lazy straw man.

"The left" are first of all not some kind of monolith. Obviously. Second of all, the notion that this supposed monolith are all "shouting down men" is nonsense, too.

Now, there IS absolutely validity to small pieces of these arguments that the "left" have not offered young men the kind of guidance they need, while the right have done a great job providing them with tantalizing bogeymen. But the argument sin this post are more of the same tired perpetuation of a false Left/Right culture war argument that is generally levied by people like Rogan, Peterson, Crowder, Carlson, etc. They tell these lost young men it's some nefarious leftist plot to take away their manhood or whatever. The left's failure is to not have a could counter to that. But creating "their own joe rogan" is nonsense because that's just saying "they need their own version manipulating lies".

What the "Left" needs to do is be able to able to not blame young men for falling for that nonsense, but to recognize there it is filling a wanted gap among that demographic to have certain archetypes.

[–] gap_betweenus -1 points 2 weeks ago

But to be honest - the left is redefining what it means to be a man. It's just that they fail to make a good pitch to a lot of young folks to pitch their sale.