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[–] Etterra 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Good riddance, vertical videos are cancer, short form obliterates attention spans, and their algorithm is engineered specifically to addict people, especially kids.

Now to ban all the rest of them. Let's start with Facebook. Twitter is already killing itself but could stand to be "helped" off the cliff.

[–] nek0d3r 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

These bans are bad. All it takes is for the US to think the fediverse is a threat and this goes too. You clearly don't like the platform and that's okay, but don't root for government censorship on the internet.

[–] Dozzi92 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm all for Australia style banning to kids, however that gets implemented, but this is slippery slope and all that. But hey, maybe not, maybe it's the only time they do it.

[–] nek0d3r 4 points 4 days ago

Wouldn't that be nice, if the powers that be didn't grab for more power lol

[–] JcbAzPx 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The only reason this is bannable is that it is owned by china essentially; based on national security grounds. As long as the fediverse is never sold to an enemy nation, there's nothing to worry about.

[–] nek0d3r 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US has control of US tiktok servers. This is bannable because politicians want the power to control social media.

[–] JcbAzPx -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not true. That's why the banning has a clause allowing for the sale of the US portion to a US (or other allied) company.

[–] nek0d3r 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/tech/tiktok-user-data-oracle/index.html Definitely, definitely correct. A company that's owned by a foreign nation shouldn't be a problem. And if you think that this doesn't set a precedent for banning anything politicians don't like, then I feel sorry for your naivety.

[–] JcbAzPx -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's no national security basis to ban social media from the US or a friendly country. It would be protected by the first amendment otherwise. They have actual evidence that China was using TikTok as electronic warfare, which is the only reason they can ban it.

[–] nek0d3r 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm baffled by your blind faith in politicians. There's been clear foreign influence on just about every major social media platform.

[–] JcbAzPx -2 points 4 days ago

It's odd you seem to have more faith in China than in the US. Personally, while my trust in my country is low, it is infinitely higher than my trust in China.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Sounds very much like you're telling me that if I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As a video editor, let me tell you how much I hate that not only do people watch shitty vertical videos all the time, but I've had to learn how to edit the fucking things.

I hate vertical video on a professional level.

That's not just a TikTok thing though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think even people who use facebook know its a bad thing.

[–] Woht24 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Depends what you use it for.

I joined Facebook when it first came out, when it was still only for Uni students, used it for many years and stopped probably about 8-10 years ago now. Fuck, how long has it been around for?

Anyway, I've recently rediscovered Facebook as I bought an old muscle car and I've been enjoying the groups and marketplace for parts.

Anyway, just a thought from an old Facebook user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just use it to find shitty $50 flat screen televisions when the next one dies. Works a treat.

My mom literally broke the living room TV, and I brought one home that afternoon from some dude in a parking lot.

The future has its ups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is facebook marketplace competing with Craigslist or is Craigslist dead?

[–] CybertoothTiger 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least where I'm at, Craigslist is absolutely dead. Marketplace actually has consistent new listings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorta rough facebook is the avenue for that nowadays. Sorta like if public libraries were located inside walmarts or something.

[–] CybertoothTiger 1 points 2 days ago

Yeaaaaah I hate it.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 3 days ago

Agreed. Much of my family is on it, and most of them live in other countries. My brother, who is ASD, prefers to communicate with it rather than text or phone, and I live at least an hour's drive from any friends. I use it to talk to them and I have joined a handful of groups, most of which I don't post in, I just lurk.

I also tell them I don't want to see any ads of any type of thing except the narrow number of things I don't give a shit about if I see an ad for. Lots of telling them "I don't want to see ads of this type" for a while, but it's not anywhere near as bad now.

I did discover recently that if you go to "feeds" rather than just look at the main scroll, you see a lot less bullshit.

[–] Cowabunga_It_Is 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

vertical videos are cancer

I generally agree with you, but I have to laugh at the fact that this is the first point you make about the danger of TikTok.

their algorithm is engineered specifically to addict people, especially kids

I've always wondered if 100 years from now people will look at kids using social media in a similar way to how we look at kids using tobacco products today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Why would America ban Facebook for being a "national security threat" to America lmao? Nothing about this had to do with protecting kids or the dangers of social media. Don't act like it did.