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I was planning to donate the couple bucks I had left over from the year to the charity called “San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance”, I was doing a background check on CharityNavigator and they gave the charity full ratings so it seemed good.

Then I stumbled upon the salary section. What the fuck? I earn <20k a year and was planning to contribute to someone’s million dollar salary? WHAT.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951648219

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 5 days ago (8 children)

https://sandiegozoowildlifealliance.org/sites/default/files/2024-07/2023-SDZWA-Annual-Report.pdf

Total revenue per year is 420 million.

Concessions and cleaning staff typically make 35k-40k. Zookeepers ~50k.

These 5 employees. Amount to .8% of the yearly operating budget, while the sum of all other employees totals up to 10% of the 400 million dollar operating budget.

I’m not making any judgements, just offering the numbers.

[–] TheLowestStone 105 points 5 days ago (7 children)

They pay cooks less than $20/hour in a city with an average rent of $3000/month. I've got no problem passing judgement.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (6 children)

They pay cooks less than $20/hour

So their cooks get paid less than 'cooks' at McDonald's? Fast food minimum wage is $20/hour throughout California.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why did you put "cooks" in quotes? Do you think fry cooks aren't cooks? Churning out food in a hot kitchen is work, regardless of what you think of the end product

[–] WhatAmLemmy 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

While most work is hard, and I dunno how bespoke this gig is, there's a massive difference between a generic fry "cook" and a restaurant line cook/chef.

Most fry cooks, like a Macdonald's, are a finely tuned production line where most of the food is pre-prepped and premade (most of the "cooking" is done in a factory). The "cooks" in those roles usually just assemble the pre made components, and in the case of fast food, have finely tunes tools to serve their generic menu.

A restaurant cook/chef requires significantly more attention to detail, skill, flexibility, and knowledge because most of the food is made from scratch, using raw ingredients, which is why there are culinary schools. Real restaurants can't succeed with a kitchen full of deep fryers and teenagers pushing buttons. Naturally, the expectation is that they should be paid more because it requires more skill, knowledge, effort, and dedication.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We're already making the (existing) distinction between cook/chef though.

There's no apparent need for a "cook"/cook/chef distinction.

[–] TheLowestStone 3 points 3 days ago

As a chef with 22 years of experience hiring cooks, there is absolutely a distinction. I would have said fast food worker instead of "cook" because the quotes make it feel condescending, but I also do not count experience in fast food as relevant experience when reviewing resumes for a line or prep cook position.

We're also misusing the word chef a lot in this conversation. Everyone working the line in a kitchen is not a chef. They are cooks. The chefs are the kitchen leadership. There is typically one executive chef and one or two sous chefs below them. I'm simplifying things a bit but that's the most common structure you'll find in non-chain/corpo kitchens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm not saying that McDonald's isn't hard work - I definitely agree with you there. I was just referring to the fact that McDonald's food is fairly straightforward to cook such that a teenager with minimal experience can do it, compared to a restaurant where they have many different menu items cooked from scratch and the chefs need more detailed knowledge of the items.

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