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The District of Columbia sued Amazon on Wednesday, alleging the company secretly stopped providing its fastest delivery service to residents of two predominantly Black neighborhoods while still charging millions of dollars for a membership that promises the benefit. 

The complaint filed in District of Columbia Superior Court revolves around Amazon’s Prime membership, which costs consumers $139 per year or $14.99 per month for fast deliveries — including one-day, two-day and same-day shipments — along with other enhancements

In mid-2022, the lawsuit alleges, the Seattle-based online retailer imposed what it called a delivery “exclusion” on two low-income ZIP codes in the district — 20019 and 20020 — and began relying exclusively on third-party delivery services such as UPS and the U.S. Postal Service, rather than its own delivery systems.

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[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're right, I didn't read this time. I usually do, but this time I am guilty.

Also, just risking other drivers instead of your own is supremely shitty of them.

[–] capital 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And if they ignored the problem you’d be criticizing Amazon for failing to care for their employees (contractors).

A private company isn’t well positioned to actually solve the root issue here. All they can do is remove their employees (contractors) from danger.

Amazon’s shitty for other reasons. But I don’t think this is one of them.

[–] FlyingSquid -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And if they ignored the problem you’d be criticizing Amazon for failing to care for their employees (contractors).

You're right. Because failing to take care of their employees and putting other people's employees at risk in order to stop their employees from getting attacked are both reprehensible.

Do USPS employees deserve to be attacked but Amazon employees don't?

If Dominos drivers kept getting attacked so Dominos just contracted out to Doordash to let them get attacked instead, I would hope you would think that neither situation was acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So is the solution then to be "Amazon withdraws all shipping services for "? "Amazon sends armed PMCs to , terrorizing locals"? What's the solution?

[–] FlyingSquid -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do I have to have a solution to find either solution, which puts someone in danger, unacceptable?

Why is putting USPS employees in danger acceptable to you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not, I'm just trying to figure out what the path out of what appears to be a no-win scenario according to that standard. Just stop all deliveries altogether?

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago

Maybe? Have people pick stuff up at a depot?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Postal service has to go there anyway, no extra risk.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So it's fine if a postal carrier gets attacked? Really?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How is that your take away? It's either an undeliverable address because the customer or a dog has threatened a postal worker, or they are going there at least 5 times a week anyway.

Are you saying some people or communities just don't deserve mail?

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m saying just saying “let the post office deal with it” is the same as saying g “it’s ok if postal carriers get attacked or even murdered.”

Or do you have a solution to that which the USPS can do but Amazon can’t?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Amazon can, it's just too expensive for them to want to do it. This is the reason the postal service exists, if it became privatized half of us would stop getting mail delivery, at least at any kind of reasonable price.

Sounds like you just don't want people you deem undesirable to receive services.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, I don’t want people to be murdered. Apparently you’re okay with it as long as it’s a post office employee and not an Amazon employee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So you honestly think entire American zip codes are just murder zones? Where do you think the USPS employees working these zip codes live?

You insult your fellow humans with this nonsense. USPS wants nothing to do with your hateful rhetoric.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is Amazon not delivering to that area? Because I thought it was that their drivers were at risk. Why are postal workers expendable but Amazon workers aren’t? Is this some anti-union thing that you are taking way, way too far?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because they are lying to improve their bottom line.

It's a combination of them wanting to pay low wages, and not getting people interested (because again, you have to compete with USPS wages/benefits) and that certain zip codes order more smaller value items, making the expedited shipping cost cut into their profits.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right. You think it’s fine for a non-union, for-profit corporation to put unionized public employees at risk. This has already been established. I just don’t get why you think unionized public employees deserve to be attacked instead of Amazon employees. Is it the free life insurance policy or is the post office just too socialist for you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your the one simping for Amazon claiming certain American communities are essentially too violent. If I had my way they would be required to have equivalent or better versions of the USPS contract given how hard they dog their employees.

Where are all of these attacks happening? How come USPS can handle it fine, yet Amazon can't? Stop licking Bozos boot.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am doing no such thing. Bezos is not the person doing the deliveries, low-paid, non-union Amazon workers are. I care about them, not Bezos. And I can see now that you didn't bother reading the article.

The attacks are happening in the zip codes where Amazon is not delivering. That's why they're not delivering.

I was going to ask why you haven't explained to my why USPS drivers should risk themselves but Amazon driver shouldn't, but now it's clear to me that you just think all of them should. I wonder if you've ever even worked in such a job or if you've just decided you know what's best for them? Because I'm betting its the latter.

Edit: also, I have no idea why you think caring about some low-paid employee's safety means I love the company they work for. Do you mock fast food employees when they get robbed at gunpoint because the company deserves it and anyone who worries about those employees is just a corporate bootlicker? Do you care about humans other than yourself at all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What attacks? Give me the statistics about the attacks, oh wait you can't because Amazon made it up and your just parroting them.

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 1 week ago

Dude, read the fucking article.