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[–] rockSlayer -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you intentionally misconstruing what I say? Because that is also not what I'm saying. The words I write are exactly what I mean.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what you wrote:

Therefore, according to you, since you have now confirmed that the words you write are exactly what you mean, no military group in the Middle East ever fires at the U.S. military first.

Which is objectively false.

[–] rockSlayer -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Read those words, all of them, with equal weight. Maybe you just need some contextual editing and a rephrase to grasp this.

Right now, statements from the US military involving both the words "defensive strike" and any Middle Eastern country are extremely dubious and should not be trusted.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have now shown that your previous statement was false:

Because this:

Right now, statements from the US military involving both the words “defensive strike” and any Middle Eastern country are extremely dubious and should not be trusted.

And this:

I didn’t say it wasn’t a thing. I’m saying that anything involving “defensive” and a Middle Eastern country from the US military is a damned lie right now.

Do not mean exactly the same thing. There is a wide, wide gulf between "damned lie" and "extremely dubious."

I really don't think anything more needs to be done to demonstrate that you are being wildly inconsistent and quite dishonest, so I think I'll move on.

[–] rockSlayer 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not going to play this game of semantics. You're right, they aren't exactly the same. Because I rephrased it for clarification I thought was missing. They mean the same thing. If you want to argue that removing heated language in the name of understanding fundamentally altered what I have to say, then that's your deal. I want productive conversations, not word lawyering. I get enough of that from fighting work with my union.